Obama Proposes Tax Credits to Hire Jobless Vets

[Cha]

Quote:WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama proposed tax credits Friday to help companies hire America's 1 million unemployed military veterans and vowed to press Congress harder this fall for legislation to provide more jobs for all.

Citing the nation's still wobbly economy and a new report showing unemployment remaining at over 9 percent, Obama told an audience at Washington's Navy Yard: "We are going to get through this. Things will get better. And we're going to get there together."

Obama's proposals were part of his efforts to return to a focus on jobs after spending weeks mired in the contentious debt-limit debate.

"My singular focus is the American people. Getting the unemployed back on the job, lifting their wages," he said.

>the rest of the report<
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-proposes-tax...22288.html

[jaxx]

I like this idea. Get people to work.

[Dimwitted Fool]

a throwaway soundbite in the middle of a speech that no one really cares about. It really means he doesn't have the faintest idea how to create jobs now that he can't get any stimulus money through.

Face it, who's gonna hire someone for a tax credit? Add up all the costs in hiring, training, and maybe firing someone and it's for a better reason than a tax credit. A reason like there's work to be done and profit to be made.

"Singular focus"? Again, get real-- his singular focus is on getting reelected, and everything, including jobs, has to fit into that.

Is this cynical? Not really-- he's a politician facing an intractible problem in an election cycle. It's to be expected until a solution pops up.

[skip_in_boulder]

(08-06-2011 01:59 AM)Dimwitted Fool Wrote:  Face it, who's gonna hire someone for a tax credit? Add up all the costs in hiring, training, and maybe firing someone and it's for a better reason than a tax credit.

There were some tax credits available to employers in the late 80's to hire certain classes of people of which I was one of. In fact when I brought it to the company's attention they were unaware that they could even claim the credit.

Now did that close the deal. Hardly, I still had to bring a certain skill set to the table, but it did provide an incentive for the company to hire me in addition to the skills I came with and I got the job.

[Baltoman991]

(08-06-2011 01:59 AM)Dimwitted Fool Wrote:  a throwaway soundbite in the middle of a speech that no one really cares about. It really means he doesn't have the faintest idea how to create jobs now that he can't get any stimulus money through.

Face it, who's gonna hire someone for a tax credit? Add up all the costs in hiring, training, and maybe firing someone and it's for a better reason than a tax credit. A reason like there's work to be done and profit to be made.

"Singular focus"? Again, get real-- his singular focus is on getting reelected, and everything, including jobs, has to fit into that.

Is this cynical? Not really-- he's a politician facing an intractible problem in an election cycle. It's to be expected until a solution pops up.

To answer your question, yeah, imo, your post is quite cynical. To sit here an accuse Obama of thinking about NOTHING but getting re-elected is bullshit.

The man has not stopped fighting for the poor and middle class since he took office. He has said he doesn't care if he's a one term President.

Posts like this are just the reason I left the other fucking board. Accusing the President of not focusing on anything but re-election is what the PL'ers and the right are accusing him of and again I say it's pure Bullshit!!!!

[Dimwitted Fool]

(08-06-2011 08:10 AM)Baltoman991 Wrote:  Posts like this are just the reason I left the other fucking board. Accusing the President of not focusing on anything but re-election is what the PL'ers and the right are accusing him of and again I say it's pure Bullshit!!!!

Lighten up.

Like it or not we are in campaign season-- just look at the nonsense, and bald-faced lies, being thrown out from the other side.

And, like it or not, the other side has killed any hope of job growth. They scream about tax hikes in a recession when the real problem with government now is reduced spending and layoffs at all levels.

So, what's a President to do when his best tools are taken away but everyone's looking at him to solve the problem when the right is throwing bombs and the left is throwing banana peels?

I think that overall Obama's doing a good job, but we're at a point in the political cycle where he can't do much more, so any progress can only come in a second term with a Democratic house. Until then, he's just running the clock.

[Baltoman991]

(08-06-2011 09:01 AM)Dimwitted Fool Wrote:  

(08-06-2011 08:10 AM)Baltoman991 Wrote:  Posts like this are just the reason I left the other fucking board. Accusing the President of not focusing on anything but re-election is what the PL'ers and the right are accusing him of and again I say it's pure Bullshit!!!!

Lighten up.

Like it or not we are in campaign season-- just look at the nonsense, and bald-faced lies, being thrown out from the other side.

And, like it or not, the other side has killed any hope of job growth. They scream about tax hikes in a recession when the real problem with government now is reduced spending and layoffs at all levels.

So, what's a President to do when his best tools are taken away but everyone's looking at him to solve the problem when the right is throwing bombs and the left is throwing banana peels?

I think that overall Obama's doing a good job, but we're at a point in the political cycle where he can't do much more, so any progress can only come in a second term with a Democratic house. Until then, he's just running the clock.

Sorry, I won't lighten up when I read a post on THIS board of all places accusing the President of only being worried about being re-elected as you quite clearly stated in your previous post.

[Cha]

(08-06-2011 08:10 AM)Baltoman991 Wrote:  

(08-06-2011 01:59 AM)Dimwitted Fool Wrote:  a throwaway soundbite in the middle of a speech that no one really cares about. It really means he doesn't have the faintest idea how to create jobs now that he can't get any stimulus money through.

Face it, who's gonna hire someone for a tax credit? Add up all the costs in hiring, training, and maybe firing someone and it's for a better reason than a tax credit. A reason like there's work to be done and profit to be made.

"Singular focus"? Again, get real-- his singular focus is on getting reelected, and everything, including jobs, has to fit into that.

Is this cynical? Not really-- he's a politician facing an intractible problem in an election cycle. It's to be expected until a solution pops up.

To answer your question, yeah, imo, your post is quite cynical. To sit here an accuse Obama of thinking about NOTHING but getting re-elected is bullshit.

The man has not stopped fighting for the poor and middle class since he took office. He has said he doesn't care if he's a one term President.

Posts like this are just the reason I left the other fucking board. Accusing the President of not focusing on anything but re-election is what the PL'ers and the right are accusing him of and again I say it's pure Bullshit!!!!

I hear ya. PBO's single focus has to be jobs. The fascist Liars on the right are only focused on tearing down the country worse than bush-cheney left it. The whiners on the left are only focused on tearing PBO down and Obama is there in the middle lazer focused on his vision for a successful future for our country while locked in with raging stupid on each side.

The gop house is screaming "Where are the jobs ?!"..while doing everything to crush those jobs. The PW are screaming "Where are the jobs?" while sitting at their screens instead of voting in 2010 ensuring that "the jobs" were DOA.

[nofurylike]

very smart. it is crucial that military is shown who really has their best interests at heart. the right wing has long gotten away with the implication that they are the pro-military party, entirely because one of their bosses is the military-industrial complex.
when one looks at the fact that repubs are also, for the most part, chickenhawks and war-profiteers, it grows more clear who really respects military service.

thank you for posting that, Cha!

[suzie]

Any elected official has two tasks, beside which all others pale in comparison: 1) Get elected; and 2) get re-elected.

The part of this particular tax credit idea that seems good to me is that it gives returning veterans a way for them to think about selling themselves, just as Skip did. To help them get back into the civilian job market--this seems like a good way to give the individual veteran an incentive.

[jaxx]

I think this job proposal is much more than a throw away soundbite. PBO is also referring to wounded warriors coming home minus legs or an arm....people not high on the hiring block....who are fully capable of working and making meaningful contributions to the country. They, along with the troops who came back without obvious wounds (but they lived and breathed the horrors of war) will need jobs.

[illinidem]

This seems to be a wonderful plan, as does the extension of the Wounded Warriors tax credit. If I were a small business owner, I would definately take advantage of both of these, as they would benefit both veterans and my business. The only drawback, IMO, is the required ok by congress. I find it difficult to believe that repubs will approve anything positive that this President attempts to do for our country, no matter who it benefits.


On edit: I think I may have posted this in the wrong place...This posting thing is going to take some getting used to!

[Cha]

(08-07-2011 10:05 AM)illinidem Wrote:  This seems to be a wonderful plan, as does the extension of the Wounded Warriors tax credit. If I were a small business owner, I would definately take advantage of both of these, as they would benefit both veterans and my business. The only drawback, IMO, is the required ok by congress. I find it difficult to believe that repubs will approve anything positive that this President attempts to do for our country, no matter who it benefits.


On edit: I think I may have posted this in the wrong place...This posting thing is going to take some getting used to!

I find it difficult too, illinidem. They think they can lie their way out of anything aided and abetted by the US corporatemedia. Someday, I hope they go one lie over the line and they can't squirm their way out of it. It's not nice to mess with our Vets.

[jaxx]

Congress has the purse strings, so it has to go through them. We'll see just how much those teabaggers really do support the troops.

[Cha]

Quote:WASHINGTON – Arizona Public Service is one of five companies taking part in a national initiative to hire veterans for some of the 200,000 jobs that could come open in the energy industry over the next five years.

The Troops to Energy Jobs program aims to capitalize on veterans’ skills, like their focus on safety, that make them uniquely qualified to work in an industry like energy, where “safety is paramount,” said APS President and CEO Don Robinson. The two-year pilot program, unveiled Monday, is set to begin Sept. 1.

The program comes at a time when nearly one of every three energy employees in the country will be eligible for retirement by 2016, said Tom Farrell, president and CEO of Virginia-based Dominion Resources, another of the five companies in the pilot program. Farrell was citing a 2009 study from the Center for Energy Workforce Development, which developed the Troops to Energy Jobs program.

Quote:We do owe it to them,” Chu said of veterans who might be hired into the program.

But Farrell said the industry needs those workers as much as the vets need the jobs.

“This is not entirely an act of altruism,” he said. “We need these men and women, we need their skills, and their demonstrated capacity for handling authority and providing leadership.”

>the rest<
http://cronkitenewsonline.com/2011/07/ar...stry-jobs/

As well as these businesses supporting our VETS..

"This morning, President Obama challenged the private sector to hire or train 100,000 unemployed veterans or their spouses by the end of 2013. The White House also announced a list of companies who are taking action to help put our veterans to work. Here’s what some of these companies are saying:

Quote:•Siemens: At the launch of the White House’s Joining Forces initiative in April 2011, Siemens Corporation pledged to fill 10 percent of the company’s 3,000 open positions with veterans. Today, at an event with President Obama, it was announced that Siemens exceeded its goal and will increase its commitment to actively seek and hire the best and brightest from the nation’s military by reserving an additional 150 positions for veterans.

•Microsoft: We applaud the President for continuing to draw attention to this very important issue, supporting veterans, as they move from the military to civilian life, and ensuring they are fully supported and see great success along the way. Microsoft also understands the need in this area. In response, we will step up our existing efforts.

•Lockheed Martin: In response to President Obama’s call to action to support U.S. military veterans, Lockheed Martin (NYSE: LMT) today announced its strong endorsement of his challenge to support military families by actively recruiting and hiring veterans transitioning back into the workplace.

•U.S. Chamber of Commerce: We have been working together with the Administration over the past several months in expanding the “Joining Forces” initiative, and the Chamber remains at the forefront of the private sector’s efforts to tackle the issue of veterans’ employment head on….We know that today’s announcement by the President will continue to raise awareness around the country about the need to help many of America’s finest men and women find the career opportunities they deserve and are qualified to fill. And whether it’s a mega hiring fair in New York City or a smaller one in Great Falls, our commitment to connect talented veterans and military spouses with employers that have job opportunities is equally strong.

•Humana: Mike McCallister, chairman and chief executive officer of Humana, joined the president at the Washington Navy Yard as Mr. Obama urged U.S. companies to hire or train an additional 100,000 veterans by the end of 2013. Based on its experience working with military veterans and recent extensive research of veterans’ financial and medical needs, Humana (NYSE: HUM) today is announcing a new, national Veterans Initiative.

•Honeywell: Honeywell (NYSE: HON) today announced its support of President Obama’s initiative to encourage private companies to hire and train more military veterans. As part of its ongoing efforts, Honeywell recently expanded its recruitment efforts to include a target job placement goal of at least 500 veterans in 2011 across the company’s four businesses…

>There's More<
http://m.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/08/05/...r-veterans

[jaxx]

Thanks Cha, glad to see the companies are stepping up.