ESPN's Kornheiser still making sexist comments

[NJMaverick]

Kornheiser could be facing another backlash

Quote:Last year, ESPN suspended Tony Kornheiser for two weeks after he made comments during his radio show regarding ESPN colleague Hannah Storm’s on-air attire.

Lost in Kornheiser’s Tuesday back-and-forth with Colts owner Jim Irsay is the fact that Kornheiser described Washington Post columnist Sally Jenkins’ criticism of NFL owners as “shrew-like” and “hysterical.”

The former is a sexist term, the latter is as well, but not as obviously. As one male member of the media explained it last night via e-mail, “I think the test is would Tony say that about you or me. Probably not. I’m guessing Sally feels the exact same way.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...-backlash/

[Still a Democrat]

Yeah, he needs to be smacked.

Generally I give ESPN pretty good marks. They address stuff like this and promote women's sports. Sexism, homphobia, etc., often find a bastion in sports. Local sports talk radio is awful. I wonder how I could listen to it with my teenage daughter if she were interested in sports.

[suzie]

Did Kornheiser ever play any sports?

Because it always seems like the guys who never played a sport are trying so hard to be "one of the boys" that they make fools of themselves.

[RoyGBiv]

(05-18-2011 08:02 AM)suzie Wrote:  Did Kornheiser ever play any sports?

Because it always seems like the guys who never played a sport are trying so hard to be "one of the boys" that they make fools of themselves.

No, he didn't, and he's been criticized for it. That is, people have criticized his abilities as an analyst because he's never played the games he analyzes. I happen to think that criticism, in and of itself, is crap (some of the worst analysts I've heard in my life are former players) but in his case, he is a crap analyst.

He likes stoking controversy and doesn't seem to have a censor for his tongue. This is really a part of a rather long list of stupid comments he's made over the years.

[There Is No Spoon]

Korn.

[doubleyoujp]

Can I just say that all of you need to take a second to look into some of this information a little more. You've simply taken one headline and an excerpt and decided to judge an entire topic and situation. If you follow this link, with a direct-quote from Sally and the actual full quote (not chopped-up and misrepresented) that Tony Kornheiser mad, you will see that this thread should have never been created.

Also, most sports writers and critics haven't played that doesn't mean they aren't experts. Have political writers all been in the House or Senate? No. But they have studied it, day and night for years and years making them more of an expert on sports than most players. If you polled 100 columnists and 100 football players on the histroy and rules of the NFL, the columnists would destroy the players.

Grow up.
By the way, not a Dem but a proud Republican. I had to join this [open] forum just to reply to this ridiculous thread.

[There Is No Spoon]

(06-20-2011 02:50 PM)doubleyoujp Wrote:  but a proud Republican.

Ahhh, you mean a head-in-the-sand hate-filled ignoramus.

[azmouse]

(06-20-2011 02:57 PM)There Is No Spoon Wrote:  

(06-20-2011 02:50 PM)doubleyoujp Wrote:  but a proud Republican.

Ahhh, you mean a head-in-the-sand hate-filled ignoramus.

I'll give him bonus points for being willing to admit to being a Republican with all the shit they've done to this country. An intelligent person would probably be embarrassed to say that in public.

[doubleyoujp]

(06-20-2011 02:57 PM)There Is No Spoon Wrote:  

(06-20-2011 02:50 PM)doubleyoujp Wrote:  but a proud Republican.

Ahhh, you mean a head-in-the-sand hate-filled ignoramus.

I'm definitely not hate-filled or ignorant.

[There Is No Spoon]

(06-20-2011 06:34 PM)doubleyoujp Wrote:  I'm definitely not hate-filled or ignorant.

Then you're not a Republican.

[JeffR]

to be a Republican, you have some (likely unresolvable) issues.

[Baltoman991]

(06-20-2011 02:50 PM)doubleyoujp Wrote:  Can I just say that all of you need to take a second to look into some of this information a little more. You've simply taken one headline and an excerpt and decided to judge an entire topic and situation. If you follow this link, with a direct-quote from Sally and the actual full quote (not chopped-up and misrepresented) that Tony Kornheiser mad, you will see that this thread should have never been created.

Also, most sports writers and critics haven't played that doesn't mean they aren't experts. Have political writers all been in the House or Senate? No. But they have studied it, day and night for years and years making them more of an expert on sports than most players. If you polled 100 columnists and 100 football players on the histroy and rules of the NFL, the columnists would destroy the players.

Grow up.
By the way, not a Dem but a proud Republican. I had to join this [open] forum just to reply to this ridiculous thread.

Damn, I bet you feel better now that you got that off your chest. Welcome proud Republican although I have a hard time putting proud and Republican together seeing as what they're trying to do to this country.

[RoyGBiv]

(06-20-2011 02:50 PM)doubleyoujp Wrote:  Grow up.
By the way, not a Dem but a proud Republican. I had to join this [open] forum just to reply to this ridiculous thread.

You felt it necessary to sign up to a Democratic political forum to respond to a thread that is a month old that didn't even go anywhere and would have been forgotten entirely had you not decided to put in your halfpenny.

And then you tell others you don't know to grow up.

Ummm ... okay.

[doubleyoujp]

(06-20-2011 04:14 PM)RoyGBiv Wrote:  

(06-20-2011 02:50 PM)doubleyoujp Wrote:  Grow up.
By the way, not a Dem but a proud Republican. I had to join this [open] forum just to reply to this ridiculous thread.

You felt it necessary to sign up to a Democratic political forum to respond to a thread that is a month old that didn't even go anywhere and would have been forgotten entirely had you not decided to put in your halfpenny.

And then you tell others you don't know to grow up.

Ummm ...

So what if a month has passed. When I searched this topic this was one of the first search results and I am sure other people read it. Since this had been refuted by the person I thought I should give others viewers a chance to get the whole story.

[CTLawGuy]

(06-20-2011 02:50 PM)doubleyoujp Wrote:  Can I just say that all of you need to take a second to look into some of this information a little more. You've simply taken one headline and an excerpt and decided to judge an entire topic and situation. If you follow this link, with a direct-quote from Sally and the actual full quote (not chopped-up and misrepresented) that Tony Kornheiser mad, you will see that this thread should have never been created.

Also, most sports writers and critics haven't played that doesn't mean they aren't experts. Have political writers all been in the House or Senate? No. But they have studied it, day and night for years and years making them more of an expert on sports than most players. If you polled 100 columnists and 100 football players on the histroy and rules of the NFL, the columnists would destroy the players.

Grow up.
By the way, not a Dem but a proud Republican. I had to join this [open] forum just to reply to this ridiculous thread.

You can't be a Republican. Everything in your post is spelled correctly. Maybe you are just not in the tea party....

[KonaKane]

(06-20-2011 02:50 PM)doubleyoujp Wrote:  ...
By the way, not a Dem but a proud Republican. I had to join this [open] forum just to reply to this ridiculous thread.

We hope you enjoyed your very brief stay.

[sandnsea]

(06-20-2011 02:50 PM)doubleyoujp Wrote:  Can I just say that all of you need to take a second to look into some of this information a little more. You've simply taken one headline and an excerpt and decided to judge an entire topic and situation. If you follow this link, with a direct-quote from Sally and the actual full quote (not chopped-up and misrepresented) that Tony Kornheiser mad, you will see that this thread should have never been created.

Also, most sports writers and critics haven't played that doesn't mean they aren't experts. Have political writers all been in the House or Senate? No. But they have studied it, day and night for years and years making them more of an expert on sports than most players. If you polled 100 columnists and 100 football players on the histroy and rules of the NFL, the columnists would destroy the players.

Grow up.
By the way, not a Dem but a proud Republican. I had to join this [open] forum just to reply to this ridiculous thread.

So I went ahead and took a look at your link. Here's the problem. Lots of ltimes women will say they aren't offended by sexism, particularly when they're in a male dominated job. Men should really take it as an insult. When women don't complain about it, they're really saying we think you're such neanderthals that you can't act any better. The intent of the comment is to use a female stereotype to make Sally feel inferior. That is sexist, no question. Not Funny, which people who don't engage in hateful ridicule easily understand.

“I read Sally’s shrew-like, hysterical column, in which she just bangs the owners around, constantly constantly constantly, and I’m really sick of that.”

[KonaKane]

I don't think I could even begin to have a serious conversation about some guy who's actual name is "Kornheiser".

[There Is No Spoon]

[Robconoclast]

I didn't realize this was Omegle now. Trolling is for kids.