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**Arkana** · 05-02-2011, 12:24 PM

No, I didn't think so, and here's why:

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Never mind that we kinda have DNA evidence. Cindy's off her freaking rocker.

**SemiCharmedQuark** · 05-02-2011, 12:31 PM

Umm....I don't recall ever being told Bin Laden was dead before. I remember vague shrugs of "He might be dead somewhere maybe?" but no "HE'S DEAD!" So WTF are these people talking about?

Here's another gem from Ken Layne:

"And the 9/11 attacks he is most remembered for — even though he was never actually accused of having any role beyond being a religious zealot figurehead for an oppressed Islamic people’s movement against American imperialism "

Mmm...hmm....

http://wonkette.com/444707/americas-murd...eb-cartoon

**sandnsea** · 05-02-2011, 12:37 PM

*sigh*
And if he'd paraded Bin Laden through the streets, he would rightfully be condemned for that gross act as well.

**Willinois** · 05-02-2011, 12:45 PM

(05-02-2011 12:37 PM)sandnsea Wrote: *sigh*
And if he'd paraded Bin Laden through the streets, he would rightfully be condemned for that gross act as well.

Exactly. Maybe he didn't do it because Obama has never been dedicated to spreading fear and hate like Bush was?

It's fair to ask for evidence that this happened but automatically assuming it isn't true based on nothing but your own cynicism is just sad. Ted Rall made the same comment on twitter. A lot of people became justifiably cynical during the Bush years but I think we're seeing whose cynicism overcame them to the point of becoming irrational.

**Still a Democrat** · 05-02-2011, 12:41 PM

At this point I hope she never SUPPORTS PBO.

**Ikonoklast** · 05-02-2011, 12:41 PM

The Loony Left is falling all over itself in grief over the death of poor, misunderstood mass murderer Osama bin Laden.

Every single day Rahm Emanuel gets validated by these idiots.

**Arkana** · 05-02-2011, 02:04 PM

(05-02-2011 12:41 PM)Ikonoklast Wrote: The Loony Left is falling all over itself in grief over the death of poor, misunderstood mass murderer Osama bin Laden.

Every single day Rahm Emanuel gets validated by these idiots.

As does Bob Gibbs. He was right when he said some of them needed drug testing, I think, because they seem to be addicted to misery.

**The Capitol Punisher** · 05-03-2011, 12:53 PM

(05-02-2011 02:04 PM)Arkana Wrote:
(05-02-2011 12:41 PM)Ikonoklast Wrote: The Loony Left is falling all over itself in grief over the death of poor, misunderstood mass murderer Osama bin Laden.

Every single day Rahm Emanuel gets validated by these idiots.

As does Bob Gibbs. He was right when he said some of them needed drug testing, I think, because they seem to be addicted to misery.

Neither ever needed validation, because they were always right.

**Cha** · 05-02-2011, 03:02 PM

(05-02-2011 12:41 PM)Ikonoklast Wrote: The Loony Left is falling all over itself in grief over the death of poor, misunderstood mass murderer Osama bin Laden.

Every single day Rahm Emanuel gets validated by these idiots.

Poor bin laden..hiding in his compound while he sent young men and women out to blow up themselves and thousands of innocent people for his genocidal maniacal, gratification.

**Julie** · 05-02-2011, 12:49 PM

The term bat-shit crazy comes to mind.

***NJMaverick*** · 05-02-2011, 12:52 PM

Another casualty of Bush's wars

**RoyGBiv** · 05-02-2011, 04:55 PM

(05-02-2011 12:52 PM)NJMaverick Wrote: Another casualty of Bush's wars

Yes, very much so.

I met her during her Crawford vigil. I did not expect what I found. She needs help, and I do not say that to disparage the woman. She's been through a horrible ordeal, one that many parents cannot handle well. The most unfortunate thing for her, I realized, was that we used her as a symbol, which gave her a false sense of purpose. We pretended to, but we didn't really care about what was going on inside her mind.

And something then broke.

**Cha** · 05-02-2011, 09:41 PM

(05-02-2011 04:55 PM)RoyGBiv Wrote:
(05-02-2011 12:52 PM)NJMaverick Wrote: Another casualty of Bush's wars

Yes, very much so.

I met her during her Crawford vigil. I did not expect what I found. She needs help, and I do not say that to disparage the woman. She's been through a horrible ordeal, one that many parents cannot handle well. The most unfortunate thing for her, I realized, was that we used her as a symbol, which gave her a false sense of purpose. We pretended to, but we didn't really care about what was going on inside her mind.

And something then broke.

Oh dear..that sounds so sad.

**Hekate** · (This post was last modified: 05-03-2011 12:44 AM by Hekate.)

(05-02-2011 04:55 PM)RoyGBiv Wrote:
(05-02-2011 12:52 PM)NJMaverick Wrote: Another casualty of Bush's wars

Yes, very much so.

I met her during her Crawford vigil. I did not expect what I found. She needs help, and I do not say that to disparage the woman. She's been through a horrible ordeal, one that many parents cannot handle well. The most unfortunate thing for her, I realized, was that we used her as a symbol, which gave her a false sense of purpose. We pretended to, but we didn't really care about what was going on inside her mind.

And something then broke.

I so very much agree with you. I met her once or twice at the very, very beginning of Arlington West out here in Santa Barbara. We were holding a special vigil for Mother's Day, with speeches on its original purpose. She had heard about us and our crosses in the sand, and drove for hours to join us along with her family, which was still intact at that time.

Members of the VFP went to Crawford with her and escorted her through ditches and heat down the road to Bush's "ranch." It was overwhelmingly archetypal.

The problem is that having an archetype live through you, especially when many others participate in projecting it upon you, can kill you or drive you mad.

I am so sorry. I, too, think she was driven mad by Bush's War.

Hekate

**KonaKane** · 05-02-2011, 01:09 PM

Will it surprise anyone here to know that Cindy's views on this matter are exactly the same as those coming from the nutbar right today?

Koinkeedeenk?

**Born_A_Truman** · 05-02-2011, 02:29 PM

(05-02-2011 01:09 PM)KonaKane Wrote: Will it surprise anyone here to know that Cindy's views on this matter are exactly the same as those coming from the nutbar right today?

Koinkeedeenk?

Alex Jones?

Yes, some on the left are buying into this crap.

***azmouse*** · 05-02-2011, 01:11 PM

How sad. This woman is in need of help. I hope she gets it before she harms herself.

**Arkana** · 05-02-2011, 02:09 PM

I'm confused--if Cindy really does feel so strongly that this country is a "lying, murderous Empire", why doesn't she do more to try and change it? Or, alternately, pack her shit and get out? I realize that sounds a lot like "AMURICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT" but shit like this pisses me off to an extent where I'm not really high on consistency.

**atomic** · 05-02-2011, 02:38 PM

And it's mindboggling how many loony tunes on the far left have jumped on the bandwagon. It's the point where the far left and far right meet in a sick symbiosis and that makes them all teabaggers.

***NJMaverick*** · 05-03-2011, 01:53 PM

(05-02-2011 02:38 PM)eliz@sf Wrote: And it's mindboggling how many loony tunes on the far left have jumped on the bandwagon. It's the point where the far left and far right meet in a sick symbiosis and that makes them all teabaggers.

The problem is that all of those on that bandwagon have the same problem. They are trying to reconcile the fact that they were proven wrong with the indisputable belief that they are always right.

**atomic** · (This post was last modified: 05-03-2011 02:13 PM by atomic.)

(05-03-2011 01:53 PM)NJMaverick Wrote:
(05-02-2011 02:38 PM)eliz@sf Wrote: And it's mindboggling how many loony tunes on the far left have jumped on the bandwagon. It's the point where the far left and far right meet in a sick symbiosis and that makes them all teabaggers.

The problem is that all of those on that bandwagon have the same problem. They are trying to reconcile the fact that they were proven wrong with the indisputable belief that they are always right.

You know there was a time when I thought the visual of Cindy sitting alone at the entrance to Bush's Dirt Farm made a poignant picture. And then the circus arrived and her pure, powerful message turned into a freakshow.

Cindy's IMMEDIATE Deather stance renders her not to be taken seriously. It's an embarrassment to have the left-baggers so willingly come out as Deathers. They are not to be taken serious either, in fact, IMO they should be shunned for the loons that they are.

I will not give these loons the time of day when it comes to the upcoming election. Not even nanosecond trying to persuade them to vote for Pres O. They are in my view as much the enemy as the GOP, perhaps worse. Feh.

**Cha** · (This post was last modified: 05-02-2011 03:05 PM by Cha.)

And, poor Cindy..I feel bad for her and wonder if anything would have been different if bush had only gone out and talked to her. But, now she doesn't believe bin laden is actually dead? This isn't the fucking bush admin. 9/11 happened on that watch and along comes Pres Obama to clean it the fuck up.

**Hekate** · 05-03-2011, 01:48 PM

(05-02-2011 03:04 PM)Cha Wrote: And, poor Cindy..I feel bad for her and wonder if anything would have been different if bush had only gone out and talked to her. But, now she doesn't believe bin laden is actually dead? This isn't the fucking bush admin. 9/11 happened on that watch and along comes Pres Obama to clean it the fuck up.

Bush and his handlers were beyond despicable to treat her as they did, letting her stand in the sun until she got sick from the heat. Her escort wasn't allowed to go back to their van to get water unless and until they were ready to not come back at all.

It was one of several junctures in his presidency where my heart actually opened a space for him to do the decent thing, if that makes any sense. In other words, I detested the man but didn't imagine he was bereft of human decency. In this instance I thought he could have played the gracious gentleman, the caring sovereign as it were, and invited her to come up to the porch alone for ice tea. It would have paid off handsomely in PR, and personally I would have given him great kudos for the gesture. But he was always too much of a coward to do that with any bereaved family.

So my other thought was, since he (and probably the Secret Service, but most definitely Unka Dick) wasn't going to meet her face to face, the smallest act of decency in that climate would have been to send out bottled water. ~~ But no.

Strangely enough, tears came to my eyes just now remembering this episode.

Ever since Cindy started going off the deep end, I have tried not to read anything online about her doings. I want to remember her as she was, and my heart breaks when I think of what she has endured to become what she is now.

**CTLawGuy** · 05-02-2011, 04:18 PM

These people cannot be serious...

**Cha** · 05-03-2011, 12:21 AM

That's too bad Cindy's a Deather and even if they show a video of him dead before being buried at sea she'll say it's a stand in or some such thing to keep up the wallowing.

**Cha** · (This post was last modified: 05-03-2011 10:55 PM by Cha.)

I just posted this on a site that I went to when I was doing some research on something else.. they had a link about Cindy Sheehan not believing bin laden was dead..and the first comment said he didn't believe a word that came out of Obama's mouth but he trusted the military..

Well, I do trust President Obama, the Secret Navy Seal Team and all those involved in this amazing accomplishment. I thank them for getting rid of the heinous monster, bin laden, who masterminded 9/11 and sat in his million $$$$ compound still running the show and the money.

All those who don't believe that this has happened are missing out on the compelling history that led to this successful operation.

Oh, it's in Nashville..and my comment is awaiting moderation..we'll see if it stands. Scared