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Wis. Officials Still Examining Waukesha Procedures; Dem Canvasser Casts Doubt...
04-12-2011, 05:08 PM (This post was last modified: 04-12-2011 05:34 PM by TheNewMe.)
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Wis. Officials Still Examining Waukesha Procedures; Dem Canvasser Casts Doubt...
This is about the Democratic Canvasser who seemed to be validating Kathy Nickolaus' process and results. But it turns out, she really *doesn't* back it up, and was blind-sided by the events at the time.

Wis. Officials Still Examining Waukesha Procedures; Local Dem Canvasser Casts Doubt On Process
Eric Kleefeld | April 11, 2011, 5:51PM

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/...rocess.php

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And today [Monday], in a potentially significant development, the Democratic member of the county canvassing board, county Dem vice chair Ramona Kitzinger, has released a statement seriously walking back the corroboration she had previously given at Nickolaus's press conference on Thursday.

Quote:Once the canvass had been completed and the results were finalized, I was called into Kathy's office along with Pat (the Republican observer) and told of an impending 5:30pm press conference. It was at that point that I was first made aware of an error Kathy had made in Brookfield City. Kathy told us she thought she had saved the Brookfield voter information Tuesday night, but then on Wednesday she said she noticed she had not hit save. Kathy didn't offer an explanation about why she didn't mention anything prior to Thursday afternoon's canvass completion, but showed us different tapes where numbers seemed to add up, though I have no idea where the numbers were coming from. I was not told of the magnitude of this error, just that she had made one. I was then instructed that I would not say anything at the press conference, and was actually surprised when I was asked questions by reporters.

The reason I offer this explanation is that, with the enormous amount of attention this has received over the weekend, many people are offering my statements at the press conference that the "numbers jibed" as validation they are correct and I can vouch for their accuracy. As I told Kathy when I was called into the room - I am 80 years old and I don't understand anything about computers. I don't know where the numbers Kathy was showing me ultimately came from, but they seemed to add up. I am still very, very confused about why the canvass was finalized before I was informed of the Brookfield error and it wasn't even until the press conference was happening that I learned it was this enormous mistake that could swing the whole election. I was never shown anything that would verify Kathy's statement about the missing vote, and with how events unfolded and people citing me as an authority on this now, I feel like I must speak up.

Full statement here:
http://www.orchidforchange.com/parties/w.../i/1343504

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04-12-2011, 05:26 PM
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RE: Wis. Officials Still Examining Waukesha Procedures; Dem Canvasser Casts Doubt...
Prosser Campaign: Kloppenburg Should 'Avoid The Unnecessary Drama Of A Recount'
Eric Kleefeld | April 12, 2011, 5:19PM


The campaign of Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser is now saying that challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg should consider the heavy odds in a recount -- and that the margin shifts that occur in them are quite small.

As WisPolitics reports, Prosser's campaign released a statement pointing out that that the largest ever vote swing in a Wisconsin statewide recount has only been 489 votes. Prosser's current lead is over 7,000 votes. "History does not provide a rosy picture of recounts of a half a percent or less," said Prosser campaign spokesman Brian J. Nemoir. "While there may be a legal right to a recount, after a review of past‐results and consideration for the heavy burden upon the state, it is in the best interests of the state to have the common sense decision be made to avoid the unnecessary drama of a recount."

The Kloppenburg campaign did not immediately return TPM's request for comment.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/...ecount.php

So not only is the election shady, Prosser thinks she shouldn't ask for a recount!!

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04-12-2011, 05:33 PM
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Prosser doesn't want the unnecessary drama
of himself possibly losing the recount.

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04-12-2011, 06:44 PM (This post was last modified: 04-12-2011 06:45 PM by Cha.)
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(04-12-2011 05:26 PM)jaxx Wrote:  Prosser Campaign: Kloppenburg Should 'Avoid The Unnecessary Drama Of A Recount'
Eric Kleefeld | April 12, 2011, 5:19PM


The campaign of Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser is now saying that challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg should consider the heavy odds in a recount -- and that the margin shifts that occur in them are quite small.

As WisPolitics reports, Prosser's campaign released a statement pointing out that that the largest ever vote swing in a Wisconsin statewide recount has only been 489 votes. Prosser's current lead is over 7,000 votes. "History does not provide a rosy picture of recounts of a half a percent or less," said Prosser campaign spokesman Brian J. Nemoir. "While there may be a legal right to a recount, after a review of past‐results and consideration for the heavy burden upon the state, it is in the best interests of the state to have the common sense decision be made to avoid the unnecessary drama of a recount."

The Kloppenburg campaign did not immediately return TPM's request for comment.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/...ecount.php

So not only is the election shady, Prosser thinks she shouldn't ask for a recount!!
I've seen Prosser and he even looks shady..I say JoAnne Kloppenburg use every avenue to make sure it was a fair election with "7000" votes popping up out of nowhere/AKA/the Kathy Nickolaus machine.

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04-12-2011, 06:47 PM
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(04-12-2011 05:26 PM)jaxx Wrote:  Prosser Campaign: Kloppenburg Should 'Avoid The Unnecessary Drama Of A Recount'
Eric Kleefeld | April 12, 2011, 5:19PM


The campaign of Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser is now saying that challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg should consider the heavy odds in a recount -- and that the margin shifts that occur in them are quite small.

As WisPolitics reports, Prosser's campaign released a statement pointing out that that the largest ever vote swing in a Wisconsin statewide recount has only been 489 votes. Prosser's current lead is over 7,000 votes. "History does not provide a rosy picture of recounts of a half a percent or less," said Prosser campaign spokesman Brian J. Nemoir. "While there may be a legal right to a recount, after a review of past‐results and consideration for the heavy burden upon the state, it is in the best interests of the state to have the common sense decision be made to avoid the unnecessary drama of a recount."

The Kloppenburg campaign did not immediately return TPM's request for comment.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/...ecount.php

So not only is the election shady, Prosser thinks she shouldn't ask for a recount!!

The republicans always say that in the case of a recount. But if things swing toward the Democrat, then they immediately go into full recount mode themselves.

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04-12-2011, 10:04 PM
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(04-12-2011 06:47 PM)Punky Wrote:  The republicans always say that in the case of a recount. But if things swing toward the Democrat, then they immediately go into full recount mode themselves.

Prosser was lawyer-ed up before the end of election day.

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04-12-2011, 06:18 PM
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I hope she demands a recount and it has observers watching every move.

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04-12-2011, 06:41 PM
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Yes, I can see where Ramona Kitzinger would feel the need to speak up after all that confusion and being quoted as "an authority" on the whole bloody mess.

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