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03-27-2011, 08:41 AM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
(03-27-2011 07:56 AM)jaxx Wrote: He ripped them all the proverbial "new one". Next question should be what the hell were the voters thinking letting these people into office?
In our case it was just 39% who voted for LePage. He would not have won had an independent candidate not jumped into the race, taking votes away from the democratic nominee. It was a disaster for us.
Still you have a point. The other 61% of us are pretty creeped out that we have people amidst us who voted for this joker.
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03-27-2011, 11:58 AM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
(03-27-2011 07:56 AM)jaxx Wrote: He ripped them all the proverbial "new one". Next question should be what the hell were the voters thinking letting these people into office?
The Democratic voters and the Moderates were punishing President Obama because he didn't deliver their Unicorn. They didn't pause for a second to think of the implications of their not supporting Democratic candidates. Yep, I said it outloud, they were selfish people being led around by the nose and not performing critical thinking.
The short game may be satisfying but the long game may be catastrophic!
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03-27-2011, 07:57 AM
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Very good
It's a bit difficult to laugh while thinking of what these cretins are doing.
Confirmed, Fox "news" makes you stupid
The ones you are noticing are more terrified than anything else. They are lashing out because they are comfortable; and to acknowledge what is happening is a threat to that comfort. Ignore them, for they are not the voices that will rise in the coming days, months and years. They are not the voices of our collected humanity. They are the old voices of fear and impotence. - Anonymous
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03-27-2011, 08:02 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-27-2011 08:03 AM by kahuna.)
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
(03-27-2011 07:38 AM)NJMaverick Wrote:
How typical of the professional left, which Stewart became part of when he held his rally. I wonder if he now understands when Rachel was trying to school him about drawing a false equivalency between the parties, what she was talking about. Probably not. There's still money to be made spouting off without having the facts.
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03-27-2011, 01:34 PM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
Thanks Mav! Reminds me when after a terrible day of bush-cheney dictating their war agenda on Iraq and America I'd watch Jon Stewart and could actually laugh about it.
He didn't say much about Walker(maybe he got Walker and Koch(fake)talking in another segment but he certainly pinned rick scott(ugh!), kasick, and lepage(doesn't understand how murals work  )
Those poor states...I know the majority got what they voted(they say lepage only got 39% though-fucking dictator) for but there are people who live there who knew better than to trust those lying scuzzballs.
"Democracy Is Not A Spectator Sport. The Future Is Ours If We Actively Participate In Shaping It"
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03-28-2011, 04:06 AM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
yep, he knew he was creating material for his future jokes when he joined the PL back before 2010 election.
nothing else matters to him.
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03-28-2011, 07:11 AM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
Pardon my ignorance, but what specifically did Stewart do that has so many so irritated at him?
I don't watch him regularly, usually just through clips like this one, so I'm curious.
Is it the rally thing? If so I think people both misinterpret it and overestimate its importance or influence. Having heard many accounts from people I know who actually went, the atmosphere "on the ground," so to speak, was vastly different than how it was portrayed, even by the broadcast itself. Whatever Stewart's plans for it, it was a very positive atmosphere in the event.
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03-28-2011, 08:07 AM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
(03-28-2011 07:11 AM)RoyGBiv Wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but what specifically did Stewart do that has so many so irritated at him?
I don't watch him regularly, usually just through clips like this one, so I'm curious.
Is it the rally thing? If so I think people both misinterpret it and overestimate its importance or influence. Having heard many accounts from people I know who actually went, the atmosphere "on the ground," so to speak, was vastly different than how it was portrayed, even by the broadcast itself. Whatever Stewart's plans for it, it was a very positive atmosphere in the event.
It's the hypocrasy. He may have said many positive things. But the thing he said that got the most attention was the false equivalency he drew between the dems and repukes.
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03-28-2011, 08:14 AM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
(03-28-2011 08:07 AM)kahuna Wrote: (03-28-2011 07:11 AM)RoyGBiv Wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but what specifically did Stewart do that has so many so irritated at him?
I don't watch him regularly, usually just through clips like this one, so I'm curious.
Is it the rally thing? If so I think people both misinterpret it and overestimate its importance or influence. Having heard many accounts from people I know who actually went, the atmosphere "on the ground," so to speak, was vastly different than how it was portrayed, even by the broadcast itself. Whatever Stewart's plans for it, it was a very positive atmosphere in the event.
It's the hypocrasy. He may have said many positive things. But the thing he said that got the most attention was the false equivalency he drew between the dems and repukes.
Funny, I didn't even take that seriously as I saw it as the media latching onto and overemphasizing that aspect of it. Throwing out the baby with the bathwater is why liberals can't form coalitions and instead spend altogether too much time countering arguments from those that can and do - i.e. the so-called "Tea Party". They may be morons, but they organized and got their people elected. Granted it was almost a gimme after the bigots realized they had a black President, but you get the point of what I'm saying.
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The ones you are noticing are more terrified than anything else. They are lashing out because they are comfortable; and to acknowledge what is happening is a threat to that comfort. Ignore them, for they are not the voices that will rise in the coming days, months and years. They are not the voices of our collected humanity. They are the old voices of fear and impotence. - Anonymous
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03-28-2011, 08:22 AM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
(03-28-2011 08:07 AM)kahuna Wrote: It's the hypocrasy. He may have said many positive things. But the thing he said that got the most attention was the false equivalency he drew between the dems and repukes.
If you're referring to the rally, it's not even what he said or didn't say that I'm talking about when I mention the positive atmosphere. I'm referring more to a sense of tranquility and an shared understanding that the people who were there were all of a like mind, that they were tired of being told what they liked, didn't like, feared or didn't fear, and they could all just talk about things. Stewart didn't directly have a lot to do with that. He just provided the setting.
I think the bulk of what I've seen him do expresses a general emphasis on vast differences between parties. Certainly he can be just as caustic toward self-styled liberals, but then so can we when we see some subset of them doing something stupid.
Anyway ... I won't go deeply into defending him. I don't watch him enough to get the full impact of what he may have expressed over an extended period of time.
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03-28-2011, 08:48 AM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
(03-28-2011 07:11 AM)RoyGBiv Wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but what specifically did Stewart do that has so many so irritated at him?
I don't watch him regularly, usually just through clips like this one, so I'm curious.
Is it the rally thing? If so I think people both misinterpret it and overestimate its importance or influence. Having heard many accounts from people I know who actually went, the atmosphere "on the ground," so to speak, was vastly different than how it was portrayed, even by the broadcast itself. Whatever Stewart's plans for it, it was a very positive atmosphere in the event.
For months leading up to the 2010 election Stewart was attacking the President and the Democrats. He repeatedly tried to paint the picture that there was no difference between the two parties or President Obama and President Bush. Stewart was a perfect professional left patsy aiding in their efforts to help the GOP by demoralizing the Dems, especially the liberal Dems
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03-29-2011, 05:09 AM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
(03-28-2011 07:11 AM)RoyGBiv Wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but what specifically did Stewart do that has so many so irritated at him?
I don't watch him regularly, usually just through clips like this one, so I'm curious.
Is it the rally thing? If so I think people both misinterpret it and overestimate its importance or influence. Having heard many accounts from people I know who actually went, the atmosphere "on the ground," so to speak, was vastly different than how it was portrayed, even by the broadcast itself. Whatever Stewart's plans for it, it was a very positive atmosphere in the event.
What annoyed me recently was his attempts to compare Libya to Iraq and paint Obama as a hypocrite. Either he was being wilfully misleading in order to be funny or he was wilfully ignorant about the situation.
Principles alone do not put food on the table.
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03-28-2011, 07:19 PM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
Here is an example;
When the GOP was dismantling union rights in WI, Stewart spent his time bashing Dems for fleeing to IL. He didn't mention why they did it, he just portrayed them as cowards.
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03-29-2011, 05:12 AM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
(03-28-2011 09:44 PM)Cha Wrote: (03-28-2011 07:19 PM)SemiCharmedQuark Wrote: Here is an example;
When the GOP was dismantling union rights in WI, Stewart spent his time bashing Dems for fleeing to IL. He didn't mention why they did it, he just portrayed them as cowards.
Wow! That's way too bad..you'd think he would be a person who wouldn't take things out of context like he exposes fox "news" for doing!
Cha, this is not surprising. The media's, including Jon Stewart's, number one job is to maximize viewership, not to report the truth. There is no mechanism to force the media to tell the truth about anything.
Principles alone do not put food on the table.
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03-29-2011, 08:36 AM
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RE: Jon Stewart on the new GOP governors
(03-29-2011 05:12 AM)CTLawGuy Wrote: (03-28-2011 09:44 PM)Cha Wrote: (03-28-2011 07:19 PM)SemiCharmedQuark Wrote: Here is an example;
When the GOP was dismantling union rights in WI, Stewart spent his time bashing Dems for fleeing to IL. He didn't mention why they did it, he just portrayed them as cowards.
Wow! That's way too bad..you'd think he would be a person who wouldn't take things out of context like he exposes fox "news" for doing!
Cha, this is not surprising. The media's, including Jon Stewart's, number one job is to maximize viewership, not to report the truth. There is no mechanism to force the media to tell the truth about anything.
So Jon Stuart is "media" now?
This is part of the problem. Jon Stuart is a comedian - he makes money by making fun of pols - whoever is in power at the time can expected to be a target.
Confirmed, Fox "news" makes you stupid
The ones you are noticing are more terrified than anything else. They are lashing out because they are comfortable; and to acknowledge what is happening is a threat to that comfort. Ignore them, for they are not the voices that will rise in the coming days, months and years. They are not the voices of our collected humanity. They are the old voices of fear and impotence. - Anonymous
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