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"Huckbee's Lie That He Really Meant Indonesia"
03-02-2011, 07:50 PM (This post was last modified: 03-02-2011 07:59 PM by Cha.)
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"Huckbee's Lie That He Really Meant Indonesia"
TIME political columnist Joe Klein wrote:

>snip<

Huckabee was never an entirely plausible candidate for President--could we actually ever elect a man who has his doubts about evolution? whose comments about Israel seemed to indicate a literal interpretation of the Bible and the Rapture myth?--but he always struck me as a good guy, more concerned about working-class America than most of his rivals. These comments, however, and his subsequent lie that he really meant Indonesia not Kenya, really show a demented, perverse sensibility, and they demonstrate some of the ugliness at the heart of Obama hatred.

I'm talking about the Mau Mau comment, especially. When I was growing up, Mau Mau was shorthand for: Extremely Scary Black People. The brutality of the Mau Mau rebellion was legendary (and, who knows, perhaps even accurate). It became a term of art in the sixties: to mau-mau was to intimidate white people. (As a young reporter in Boston, I covered a would-be black militant group that called itself, with brilliant irony, De Mau Mau.) To associate Barack Obama with the Mau Mau rebellion is to feed all the worst, paranoid fears of Glenn Beck's America--and, as any sane person knows, completely ridiculous.

>more<
http://mediamatters.org/research/201103020020

MediaMatters is all over this! Notworthy They have a whole compilation of mainstream media calling Huckabee on his lie!

Who knew ol "charming" creationist Huckabee Huckster was just another Lying hatemonger in Preacher's clothing? Undecided He opened his trap and stepped right in.

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"Huckbee's Lie That He Really Meant Indonesia" #1 - Cha - 03-02-2011, 07:50 PM
s-Wink Toastaby #10 - There Is No Spoon - 03-02-2011, 09:08 PM
RE: Toastaby #11 - Cha - 03-02-2011, 09:14 PM
RE: Toastaby #14 - Andy823 - 03-03-2011, 11:57 AM
RE: Toastaby #18 - Cha - 03-03-2011, 05:06 PM
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03-02-2011, 08:02 PM
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I had just read the FactChecker article before coming here and couldn't believe how deep Huckabee has stepped into this stupidity. Mr. Preacherman is an out and out liar.

I thought O'Donnell said it well......
Mike Huckabee desperately wants every one of their votes if he`s going to run for president next year. In his ugly pursuit of those votes, he has now fallen below the already low standard for integrity that we have come to expect from former governors of Arkansas. [MSNBC's The Last Word, 3/1/11, via Nexis]

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03-02-2011, 08:05 PM
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(03-02-2011 08:02 PM)jaxx Wrote:  I had just read the FactChecker article before coming here and couldn't believe how deep Huckabee has stepped into this stupidity. Mr. Preacherman is an out and out liar.

I thought O'Donnell said it well......
Mike Huckabee desperately wants every one of their votes if he`s going to run for president next year. In his ugly pursuit of those votes, he has now fallen below the already low standard for integrity that we have come to expect from former governors of Arkansas. [MSNBC's The Last Word, 3/1/11, via Nexis]
I just read that on MediaMatters..OUCH!

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03-02-2011, 08:03 PM
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Chuck Todd's quote from MediaMatters on Huckabee's Lie..

"NBC's Todd: "It Was More Than Just A Slip-Up." On the March 2 edition of MSNBC's The Daily Rundown, NBC News chief White House correspondent Chuck Todd said in response to Huckabee's clarification: "It was more than just a slip-up because he talked so much about the Kenyan - about actually what happened in Kenya."

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03-02-2011, 08:37 PM
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(03-02-2011 08:03 PM)Cha Wrote:  Chuck Todd's quote from MediaMatters on Huckabee's Lie..

"NBC's Todd: "It Was More Than Just A Slip-Up." On the March 2 edition of MSNBC's The Daily Rundown, NBC News chief White House correspondent Chuck Todd said in response to Huckabee's clarification: "It was more than just a slip-up because he talked so much about the Kenyan - about actually what happened in Kenya."

Wow, ol' Chuckie actually said that? Well, I'll be gobsmacked! Wow

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03-02-2011, 08:39 PM
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(03-02-2011 08:37 PM)Punky Wrote:  
(03-02-2011 08:03 PM)Cha Wrote:  Chuck Todd's quote from MediaMatters on Huckabee's Lie..

"NBC's Todd: "It Was More Than Just A Slip-Up." On the March 2 edition of MSNBC's The Daily Rundown, NBC News chief White House correspondent Chuck Todd said in response to Huckabee's clarification: "It was more than just a slip-up because he talked so much about the Kenyan - about actually what happened in Kenya."

Wow, ol' Chuckie actually said that? Well, I'll be gobsmacked! Wow
I know, rightWow

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03-03-2011, 02:16 PM
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(03-02-2011 08:37 PM)Punky Wrote:  
(03-02-2011 08:03 PM)Cha Wrote:  Chuck Todd's quote from MediaMatters on Huckabee's Lie..

"NBC's Todd: "It Was More Than Just A Slip-Up." On the March 2 edition of MSNBC's The Daily Rundown, NBC News chief White House correspondent Chuck Todd said in response to Huckabee's clarification: "It was more than just a slip-up because he talked so much about the Kenyan - about actually what happened in Kenya."

Wow, ol' Chuckie actually said that? Well, I'll be gobsmacked! Wow

Yeah I was actually going to defend the Huckster because I didn't think he had this kind of malice in him. But if Chuckie says it was this bad, then Huckabee must just be bathing in the anti-Obama muck. Just makes me sick.
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03-02-2011, 08:45 PM
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This isn't the first time Huckabee has done this. He's a crafty guy. He did it with a dog whistle attack against Romney's religion. He claimed to know nothing about Mormons and pretended to just be asking a question. In fact, it's easy to prove that he was fully aware of his church's campaign to slander and convert Mormons.

http://www.thereisaway.us/2007/12/mike_h..._bigo.html

There are plenty of valid reasons to criticize Mormonism but Huckabee's attack crossed over into an intentional attempt to stoke bigotry.
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03-02-2011, 08:47 PM
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I lived in Arkansas when Huckabee was govenor and he is one big panderer! Just about the time I try to give him the benefit of the doubt he reminds me who he really is and who he is "preaching" to. Angry
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03-03-2011, 06:21 PM
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(03-02-2011 08:47 PM)Blue_Roses Wrote:  I lived in Arkansas when Huckabee was govenor and he is one big panderer! Just about the time I try to give him the benefit of the doubt he reminds me who he really is and who he is "preaching" to. Angry

I also lived in Arkansas while The Huckster was governor. He is an out-and-out fraud. He cut Wayne Dumond loose from jail in exchange for political support from a cabal of Northwest Arkansas fundamentalists, and he ran an administration that was riddled with corruption and sweetheart deals for his friends.
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03-02-2011, 08:59 PM
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MH is a total phony and tool and his "mr nice guy" act is just that: an act.

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03-02-2011, 09:08 PM
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03-02-2011, 09:14 PM
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(03-02-2011 09:08 PM)There Is No Spoon Wrote:  He's toast now.
He got that white bread out and put it in the toaster himself.Vomit

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03-03-2011, 11:57 AM
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(03-02-2011 09:08 PM)There Is No Spoon Wrote:  He's toast now.
Yep, stuff like this shows just how crazy those running for the republican ticket really are! He was trying to please the teabaggers, but while doing so he made a fool out of himself.

Seems to be the way to go these days, please the teabaggers and alienate anyone else in the party who may be moderates. What they don't seem to understand is the teabaggers are not going to get them elected! They need a hell of a lot more votes than the teabaggers can give them, and pushing the rest of the party under bus in order to please this one small group of morons, is not going to work!
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03-03-2011, 05:06 PM
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(03-03-2011 11:57 AM)Andy823 Wrote:  
(03-02-2011 09:08 PM)There Is No Spoon Wrote:  He's toast now.
Yep, stuff like this shows just how crazy those running for the republican ticket really are! He was trying to please the teabaggers, but while doing so he made a fool out of himself.

Seems to be the way to go these days, please the teabaggers and alienate anyone else in the party who may be moderates. What they don't seem to understand is the teabaggers are not going to get them elected! They need a hell of a lot more votes than the teabaggers can give them, and pushing the rest of the party under bus in order to please this one small group of morons, is not going to work!
Huckabee is bending over for the stupid gop primary voters and must have thought he was doing an admirable job until even Chuck Todd picked up on his moronic assertion and then told a lie to slither out of his pronoucements.

From Benen's Blog today..

>snip<

THE COMPANY THEY KEEP.... Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's ® remarks about the president on a radio show yesterday were clearly offensive, but it's also worth pausing to note who it was Huckabee was speaking to.

To be sure, the remarks were ridiculous enough at face value. But the Republican made the comments to none other than Bryan Fischer, the resident nut at the American Family Association.

And who's Bryan Fischer? Walid Zafar recently described him, accurately, as "one of the most hateful public figures in the country. Almost daily, he says or writes something that is not only offensive, but almost unique in its viciousness."

We're talking about a hysterical right-wing clown who wants Muslim Americans to be "deported" (to where is unclear); equates gay sex with "domestic terrorism," and is convinced that the U.S. military is being run by "fundamentalist Muslims and homosexual activists."[/b]

>snip<

Just last week, Mississippi Senator Roger Wicker joined Fischer to discuss his anti-choice legislation, and before that it was presidential hopeful Tim Pawlenty telling Fischer he'll reinstate Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

>snip<

I seem to recall, in 2008, the right took a pretty strong interest in who Democratic candidates chose to associate themselves with. With that in mind, what are Huckabee, Pawlenty, and others doing paling around with an extremist like Bryan Fischer?

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03-03-2011, 11:02 AM
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The more I think about what Huckabee said, and his political directors half assed smoothing over, the madder I get. How can that pompous asshat even dare to lie like that and expect to get by with it?

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03-03-2011, 11:43 AM
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I called the office of his exploratory committee at 501-324-2008 #2 and left a message. What an epic piece of shit he is!

Plus he's gaining weight and becoming his fatass self again.

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03-03-2011, 12:07 PM
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And saying President Obama grew up in Indonesia is a lie, too. He was there for a couple of years.

And then attributing a particular opinion to all Kenyans and saying anyone who grew up there must think the same thing - that's bigotry.

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03-03-2011, 04:10 PM
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(03-03-2011 12:07 PM)Treestar Wrote:  And saying President Obama grew up in Indonesia is a lie, too. He was there for a couple of years.

And then attributing a particular opinion to all Kenyans and saying anyone who grew up there must think the same thing - that's bigotry.

This was going to be my question.

In precisely what way is "really meaning" Indonesia any better? Both comments are lies. Is this what we've come to? Offering a correction of a lie that is also a lie somehow negates both lies?

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03-03-2011, 08:09 PM
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WTF?

Huckabee: Obama Not Scout or Little Leaguer

Last night on “The O’Reilly Factor,” Mike Huckabee apologized for saying Barack Obama grew up in Kenya, explaining only that he meant that the president isn’t a Real American.

Quote:Huckabee: My point, really, even about talking about him raised in a different country, actually Indonesia, not Kenya, as I do understand, again, it’s right there in the book for me to read and anybody else if they care to, but the point that I do want to make is that creates a different worldview. This is not a kid who grew up, you know, going to Boy Scout meetings and playing Little League baseball in a small town.

O’Reilly: He is not a traditional guy; he’s a guy who’s had a lot of life experience that is different from, you know, the mom-and-apple-pie upbringing.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/huckabe...e-leaguer/

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03-03-2011, 08:33 PM
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(03-03-2011 08:09 PM)jaxx Wrote:  WTF?

Huckabee: Obama Not Scout or Little Leaguer

Last night on “The O’Reilly Factor,” Mike Huckabee apologized for saying Barack Obama grew up in Kenya, explaining only that he meant that the president isn’t a Real American.

Quote:Huckabee: My point, really, even about talking about him raised in a different country, actually Indonesia, not Kenya, as I do understand, again, it’s right there in the book for me to read and anybody else if they care to, but the point that I do want to make is that creates a different worldview. This is not a kid who grew up, you know, going to Boy Scout meetings and playing Little League baseball in a small town.

O’Reilly: He is not a traditional guy; he’s a guy who’s had a lot of life experience that is different from, you know, the mom-and-apple-pie upbringing.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/huckabe...e-leaguer/

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And, Apple Pie Huckabee is such a shining example of what that kind of white bread life'll getcha. A spot on the bill o'lielly show 'splainin why he's such a gawdamn idiot who felt the need to lie on the Bryon Fischer show..

"And who's Bryan Fischer? Walid Zafar recently described him, accurately, as "one of the most hateful public figures in the country. Almost daily, he says or writes something that is not only offensive, but almost unique in its viciousness."

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03-04-2011, 01:05 AM
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Ya know ... reading through all the links about this crap I have come to a realization. Actually I realized this a long time ago, but I hadn't really thought of it in awhile.

I prefer my racism straight up with no chaser to this twisting in the wind chorus of dog whistles.

These morons go out of their way to find a hundred different ways to use racial epithets without using the ones that are supposedly forbidden. Can't call him a "negro" or "colored." Sure can't use that other word. Hey, I know. I'll call him "un-American." Means the same thing, but doesn't sound like it does. Plausible deniability is the key phrase.

Fuck 'em.

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03-04-2011, 03:11 PM
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(03-04-2011 01:05 AM)RoyGBiv Wrote:  Ya know ... reading through all the links about this crap I have come to a realization. Actually I realized this a long time ago, but I hadn't really thought of it in awhile.

I prefer my racism straight up with no chaser to this twisting in the wind chorus of dog whistles.

These morons go out of their way to find a hundred different ways to use racial epithets without using the ones that are supposedly forbidden. Can't call him a "negro" or "colored." Sure can't use that other word. Hey, I know. I'll call him "un-American." Means the same thing, but doesn't sound like it does. Plausible deniability is the key phrase.

Fuck 'em.
Thanks RoyG for calling out the slimey euphemisms the gop think are sooo clever when talkin' their racist bigoted shit.

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03-05-2011, 02:04 PM
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(03-04-2011 03:11 PM)Cha Wrote:  
(03-04-2011 01:05 AM)RoyGBiv Wrote:  Ya know ... reading through all the links about this crap I have come to a realization. Actually I realized this a long time ago, but I hadn't really thought of it in awhile.

I prefer my racism straight up with no chaser to this twisting in the wind chorus of dog whistles.

These morons go out of their way to find a hundred different ways to use racial epithets without using the ones that are supposedly forbidden. Can't call him a "negro" or "colored." Sure can't use that other word. Hey, I know. I'll call him "un-American." Means the same thing, but doesn't sound like it does. Plausible deniability is the key phrase.

Fuck 'em.
Thanks RoyG for calling out the slimey euphemisms the gop think are sooo clever when talkin' their racist bigoted shit.

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Was this really necessary?

Bill Clinton was born and raised in Arkansas.

Dale Bumpers was born and raised in Arkansas.

Johnny Fucking Cash was born and raised in Arkansas.

Maya Angelou. C. Vann Woodward. Cliff Lee. Scottie Pippen. Lucinda Williams. Levon Helm. Lefty Frizzell. E. Fay Jones. Bear Bryant. Lou Brock.

Not a single inbred pigfucker in the bunch.

Oh, and by the way, my wife grew up in Texarkana and Monticello. She awaits an explanation for this cartoon.
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03-05-2011, 03:29 PM
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(03-05-2011 02:04 PM)Peadar O Suileabhain Wrote:  
(03-04-2011 03:11 PM)Cha Wrote:  
(03-04-2011 01:05 AM)RoyGBiv Wrote:  Ya know ... reading through all the links about this crap I have come to a realization. Actually I realized this a long time ago, but I hadn't really thought of it in awhile.

I prefer my racism straight up with no chaser to this twisting in the wind chorus of dog whistles.

These morons go out of their way to find a hundred different ways to use racial epithets without using the ones that are supposedly forbidden. Can't call him a "negro" or "colored." Sure can't use that other word. Hey, I know. I'll call him "un-American." Means the same thing, but doesn't sound like it does. Plausible deniability is the key phrase.

Fuck 'em.
Thanks RoyG for calling out the slimey euphemisms the gop think are sooo clever when talkin' their racist bigoted shit.

[Image: PHP4D7058AC9D885.jpg]

Was this really necessary?

Bill Clinton was born and raised in Arkansas.

Dale Bumpers was born and raised in Arkansas.

Johnny Fucking Cash was born and raised in Arkansas.

Maya Angelou. C. Vann Woodward. Cliff Lee. Scottie Pippen. Lucinda Williams. Levon Helm. Lefty Frizzell. E. Fay Jones. Bear Bryant. Lou Brock.

Not a single inbred pigfucker in the bunch.

Oh, and by the way, my wife grew up in Texarkana and Monticello. She awaits an explanation for this cartoon.
Who said the Huck was a "pigfucker"?

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03-04-2011, 10:56 AM
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I agree Roy

The Huckster just alienated everyone who is not white and whose ancestors come from any other country within the past couple of generations. Likely a majority.

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03-05-2011, 03:46 PM
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When will the birthers demand to see Huck's long form vault copy of his birth certificate?

As of right now, I have no idea where he was born. No proof whatsoever.

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