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02-09-2011, 09:03 AM
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
I think it's just a slow time before the rhetoric heats up in the primary process. I'm personally ready to plant a foot in some Republican ass for the fucking lies they tell. I mean just plain old lies. Lies Lies Lies. I'm sick to death of their hate-filled propaganda. Reacting angrily is perhaps dumb and gets them off, but it also motivates me and I've been "spreading the word" about their lies to anybody who will listen, so it serves a purpose.
Confirmed, Fox "news" makes you stupid
The ones you are noticing are more terrified than anything else. They are lashing out because they are comfortable; and to acknowledge what is happening is a threat to that comfort. Ignore them, for they are not the voices that will rise in the coming days, months and years. They are not the voices of our collected humanity. They are the old voices of fear and impotence. - Anonymous
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02-10-2011, 05:37 PM
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Definitely!!
Betwixt the righty and lefty idjits and the trip back to divided government, my inner political junkie's enthusiasm has waned significantly since the elections.
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02-10-2011, 06:40 PM
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
Mav, have you been reading my mind? Yes, I've been feeling a bit of political overload. Constant barrage of lies from the right (and the angry left) has worn me out a bit...and there are times I just have to watch HGTV and go read either my pug forum or nano-reef.
I was born a Truman, but you can call me Pat. 
"They want to give people like me a two hundred thousand dollar tax cut that’s paid for by asking thirty three seniors to each pay six thousand dollars more in health costs? That’s not right, and it’s not going to happen as long as I’m President." Barack Obama
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02-10-2011, 07:07 PM
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NoPasaran
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
I feel totally -MEH-
Humpty Dumpty was pushed
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02-11-2011, 06:06 AM
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
(02-10-2011 10:10 PM)Cha Wrote: ...when I really don't like a policy..as in that surprise turnabout, greenlight, Vilsack just gave to monsanto to grow alfalfa with seemingly no geographic restrictions.
 Cha
i had just replied that i'm not really burned out, am gearing up for the next fight ....
but when i came back to re-read your post to comment in sympathy, it struck me that that very issue, monsanto, and gm foods, is the one that knocks me right out. i spend much time trying to figure out how to adequately inform people on this issue, but it has been a frickin freight train barreling through ...
i would almost call an action alert on this, ask people to write, en masse, against it, but it is too late to do that. i hadn't thought it would have to be a priority so soon ...
just sayin' ...
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02-11-2011, 05:28 PM
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Cha
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
(02-11-2011 06:06 AM)nofurylike Wrote: (02-10-2011 10:10 PM)Cha Wrote: ...when I really don't like a policy..as in that surprise turnabout, greenlight, Vilsack just gave to monsanto to grow alfalfa with seemingly no geographic restrictions.
Cha
i had just replied that i'm not really burned out, am gearing up for the next fight ....
but when i came back to re-read your post to comment in sympathy, it struck me that that very issue, monsanto, and gm foods, is the one that knocks me right out. i spend much time trying to figure out how to adequately inform people on this issue, but it has been a frickin freight train barreling through ... 
i would almost call an action alert on this, ask people to write, en masse, against it, but it is too late to do that. i hadn't thought it would have to be a priority so soon ... 
just sayin' ...

Hey sweet, nofury! There is an action alert on this and I was going to post it somewhere but here it is right now for you.. I don't think it's too late, yet..and I too am "knocked right out" over this  I came back to Hanapepe Valley after 12 years and it turns out that a local rich land family sold a lot of their land in the Valley to ..wait for it..MonFreakin'Santo! They were right next door to where I live but the lot is all empty now..I haven't found out why they left yet just glad they did.
Life is so imperfect but you don't mess with Mother Nature as I'm so glad to know you know.
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/sign/...en_rights/
"Democracy Is Not A Spectator Sport. The Future Is Ours If We Actively Participate In Shaping It"
John Harder~http://zerowastekauai.org/index.html
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02-12-2011, 02:44 AM
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
(02-11-2011 05:28 PM)Cha Wrote: Hey sweet, nofury! There is an action alert on this and I was going to post it somewhere but here it is right now for you.. I don't think it's too late, yet..and I too am "knocked right out" over this I came back to Hanapepe Valley after 12 years and it turns out that a local rich land family sold a lot of their land in the Valley to ..wait for it..MonFreakin'Santo! They were right next door to where I live but the lot is all empty now..I haven't found out why they left yet just glad they did.
Life is so imperfect but you don't mess with Mother Nature as I'm so glad to know you know.
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/sign/...en_rights/
"I don't think it's too late, yet.."
"Life is so imperfect but you don't mess with Mother Nature"
i am honored to stand with you in that understanding, dear Cha. 
your words to me mean more than i can express.
thank you thank you so very much 
i signed on and sent it on to others.
Hanapepe Valley?
"MonFreakin'Santo"!!?
are people completely losing their minds?
i tell you, honestly, i grieve for them when they realize what they have done.
Mahalo nui loa, e Cha,
for the soothing you have just gifted me
Aloha
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02-10-2011, 10:47 PM
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
Tired if not burned out. Sick of the left as much, maybe more than the right. I expected the left to be smarter and shrewder about politics than the knuckle draggers on the right. My mistake.
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02-10-2011, 11:21 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-10-2011 11:21 PM by Joan Ruaiz.)
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
Kicking the DU habit (not 100% but at least 98%) has taken a lot out of me.....
and when coupled with work and a change in my location (I'm working out of our commercial location instead of from home), it's made it hard for me to be consistent.....but I'll be back louder than ever quite soon (I hope)!
Rome wasn't built in a Day,
this shit didn't happen overnight, and 30 minute sitcoms are only on TV!
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02-11-2011, 01:46 AM
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
Not politically burned out-- just kinda burned out. And I agree with everyone sick of the hysteria and bullshit on both sides. Too bad a Clarence Thomas impeachment is off the table to perk things up in the off years, but it's more important for Issa to get the regulators off his own ass. (Why are judges supposed to recuse themselves but not congresscritters?)
Local elections coming up this year, but nothing there to get all riled up about. Looking to toss some Republicans from the town council, but that's mainly for GP and not any actual policy or lawmaking reason.
2012 will be interesting. No one knows what the economy will look like, or what the big issues will be.
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02-11-2011, 05:52 AM
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
not burned out, really. it's been a long winter, after a sickening election.
always in the fight, though. gearing up for the next one, now.
thank you for asking, NJMaverick! how about you?
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02-13-2011, 04:38 AM
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
(02-12-2011 03:50 PM)Cha Wrote: Thanks for passing that on, nofurylike! It really is good to have people who understand this crime against nature and be willing to fight back against the monster corp, Monsanto .
it is the least i can do. thank you for alerting me to it, Cha.
it is good knowing others understand, as you do. it is also good to hear from one who understands that you feel it is NOT too late. from what you linked, there is a glimmer of hope monsanto is feeling pressure.
Quote:When I first looked at my place I asked about the empty lot next door that was just wild green growth and is the last piece of land before the River and she said "Monsanto used to have that but now a friend of theirs has bought it and is going to grow corn."(That was in November and there's still no sign of anything being planted) I said "Monsanto?" and she said "I don't have a problem with Monsanto"..I didn't say anything because I wanted to live there and I was auditioning for the place. Why should Monsanto's ghost screw me out of my dream hale?
"I don't have a problem with .... "

willful ignorance hurts my head, and my heart.
i agree, completely, about not jeopardizing your own well-being over something that seems to be resolving itself - at least locally - already. that magnificent valley needs you, in your "dream hale" (divine!!), and others who also get it about "crimes against nature."
Quote:A new friend of mine who has her own place in the Valley and sent me the link to Democracy Now's Monsanto Action Petition told me that she remembers my landlady because she asked her to sign a petition once to get rid of Linda Lingle's SuperFerry and she told her that "she had no problem with the SuperFerry"! Ekk. Too bad..it's gone..we won!
i forgot that! you WON!!! well done!!!
sometimes i find myself ALMOST wishing the horrors, that such people invite, ON them. but i don't really. i just wish they could know.
Quote:I just found this link on Monsanto leaving Hanapepe Valley.. When I read about them I feel dread and a little hyperventilating as if something deadly is taking over the Earth! 
http://islandbreath.blogspot.com/2010/09...again.html
"When I read about them I feel dread and a little hyperventilating as if something deadly is taking over the Earth!" 
yes. me too, dear Cha.
but less so tonight, than the other night, thanks to you.
Mahalo ...
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02-13-2011, 03:26 PM
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Cha
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
Mahalo to you too, nofury..hopefully the organic farmers and all of us who care deeply about this can get the Obama Admin to see the big picture on what Monsanto seeds do once they hit the wind. They don't just make their own crops denatured but render anyone else's crops devoid who are unfortunate enough to be in their path.
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Furthermore, non GM crops become contaminated when they are cross-pollinated by GM crops. As one Canadian farmer, Percy Schmeiser, explains, “[B]ecause a GMO gene is a dominant gene, it will render any seeds or plants it contaminates into GMO’s, so you no longer have a choice. Back in Western Canada, the organic farmers no longer have a choice in raising canola. It is all contaminated with GMO’s so their choice is taken away. It’s the same with farmers growing organic soybeans; no longer can they do that, because within five or six years it has all been contaminated with GMO’s. So we have now ended up with only GMO canola and soybeans in Canada” (5). Genetically modified seed can only be distinguished from that variety’s traditional seed in a lab.
http://www.cfnews.org/gm-threat.htm
Monsanto..the company who gave us "Agent Orange" is now trying to take over the World's seeds and making them sterile as they are.
We really do all have to be warriors to fight for our Planet's health for future generations. The corps are blowing it from the air and the ground up.

"Democracy Is Not A Spectator Sport. The Future Is Ours If We Actively Participate In Shaping It"
John Harder~http://zerowastekauai.org/index.html
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02-14-2011, 02:35 AM
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RE: How many of you are feeling a bit politically burned out?
(02-13-2011 03:26 PM)Cha Wrote: Mahalo to you too, nofury..hopefully the organic farmers and all of us who care deeply about this can get the Obama Admin to see the big picture on what Monsanto seeds do once they hit the wind. They don't just make their own crops denatured but render anyone else's crops devoid who are unfortunate enough to be in their path.
>snip<
Furthermore, non GM crops become contaminated when they are cross-pollinated by GM crops. As one Canadian farmer, Percy Schmeiser, explains, “[B]ecause a GMO gene is a dominant gene, it will render any seeds or plants it contaminates into GMO’s, so you no longer have a choice. Back in Western Canada, the organic farmers no longer have a choice in raising canola. It is all contaminated with GMO’s so their choice is taken away. It’s the same with farmers growing organic soybeans; no longer can they do that, because within five or six years it has all been contaminated with GMO’s. So we have now ended up with only GMO canola and soybeans in Canada” (5). Genetically modified seed can only be distinguished from that variety’s traditional seed in a lab.
http://www.cfnews.org/gm-threat.htm
Monsanto..the company who gave us "Agent Orange" is now trying to take over the World's seeds and making them sterile as they are.
We really do all have to be warriors to fight for our Planet's health for future generations. The corps are blowing it from the air and the ground up. 
 
" They don't just make their own crops denatured but render anyone else's crops devoid who are unfortunate enough to be in their path."
yes. you know a lot about this, Cha!
"We really do all have to be warriors to fight for our Planet's health for future generations. The corps are blowing it from the air and the ground up.  "
yes yes YES!! 
so much to do ... and we must do.
Mahalo, dear, wise Cha

gratitude
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