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Some counter points to all the St Reagan talk we will be hearing
02-04-2011, 10:35 AM
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Some counter points to all the St Reagan talk we will be hearing
Here are some helpful counter points to remember when you hear about how wonderful the "Gipper" was:


Quote:1. Time magazine reports that documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act reveal that, as President of the Screen Actors Guild, Reagan and first wife, Actress Jane Wyman, "provided federal agents with the names of actors they believed were Communist sympathizers." Yes, "believed."
2. A former supporter of FDR and the New Deal, Reagan began dissing "big government" after taking a lucrative job as spokesman for General Electric.

3. Reagan opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Running for Governor in 1966, he reportedly said, "If an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house, it is his right to do so." Be surprised if this is noted on Meet the Press this Sunday.

4. Reagan appointed Justice William Rhenquist Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, despite testimony that Rhenquist not only advocated segregationist views, but had personally participated in a "ballot security" campaign to prevent African Americans from voting in 1962 and 64.

5. In 1976 Reagan complained about a "strapping young buck" using food stamps to buy a T-bone. He had also made frequent disparaging mention of a "welfare queen" driving her cadillac.

6. In 1980 he launched his presidential campaing in Philadelphia, Mississippi, a town most famous for being the place where three civil rights workers were murdered in 1964. Reagan seized the opportunity to declare "I believe in states rights" in his speech. It's hard to see him as anything but a divisive figure in terms of race relations. And then there was that yucky Bitburg tribute to Nazi "victims."

Many more at this link:

http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/s...t_king.php

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Some counter points to all the St Reagan talk we will be hearing #1 - NJMaverick - 02-04-2011, 10:35 AM
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02-04-2011, 11:16 AM
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Reagan was a doddering old fool who tacitly supported apartheid, blew millions on pipe-dream defense projects, propped up third-world dictators, and created a completely unfounded mistrust of government that lasts even now.

The reason he's constantly viewed through rose-colored glasses is because his administration was cloaked in layers of sunshine-and-farts happy talk.
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02-04-2011, 11:43 AM
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You missed the part where Reagan let AIDs turn into an epidemic due to his belief it was a "gay disease".

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02-04-2011, 01:12 PM
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(02-04-2011 11:43 AM)NJMaverick Wrote:  You missed the part where Reagan let AIDs turn into an epidemic due to his belief it was a "gay disease".

That alone is one hell of a legacy of evil.

Are you sure his psychic or astrologer didn't have a hand in this?

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02-04-2011, 11:44 AM
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Quote:5. In 1976 Reagan complained about a "strapping young buck" using food stamps to buy a T-bone. He had also made frequent disparaging mention of a "welfare queen" driving her cadillac.

That was me in 1973 getting a layette from the March of Dimes for my youngest daughter. I was on AFDC in California and it was my mother's car. I had no car. Yes, I got stares driving up but didn't give a flying leap.

I used one of those folding two wheel carts to grocery shop and walked. People have no idea how much fun "welfare" is until they've lived it.

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02-04-2011, 02:20 PM
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No wonder the gopropaganda machine revere him so much!

Reagan was a malignant cancer on America as evidenced by his current promoters.

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02-04-2011, 04:10 PM
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That was one nasty man!

On a side note, I was watching Obama's presser with the Canadian Prime Minister on CSPAN, and right after it was over, they had a program note that said there was some celebration of Reagan tonight, and Sister Sarah was the keynote speaker. Vomit

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02-05-2011, 12:39 PM
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Good info NJM. Thanks for sharing.
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02-05-2011, 02:56 PM
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Reversed Carter's energy policies thereby making us more dependent on coal and oil. He set us back 30 years. There's no single person more responsible for the climate crisis than the former spokesman for General Electric.
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02-05-2011, 03:01 PM
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Dan Moldea wrote a book called Dark Victory: Ronald Reagan, MCA, and the Mob. It's quite disturbing and I never understood why this didn't get more attention.

http://www.moldea.com/ReaganRedux.html

Ronald Reagan was an invention of the Hollywood conglomerate, MCA, which was founded in 1924 by Jules Stein, a Chicago ophthalmologist who quickly became friendly with the local underworld. Every facet of Reagan’s life, from his careers in acting and politics to his financial successes, were directed by MCA, which, with the help of the Mafia, was the most powerful force in Hollywood from the mid-1940s until the Bronfman family purchased the company in 1995.

Reagan came to Los Angeles in 1937 to make motion pictures, and, in 1940, MCA bought out his talent agency. Lew Wasserman became Reagan's personal agent; he negotiated a million-dollar contract with Warner Brothers on Reagan's behalf. In 1946, Wasserman became the president of MCA, and the following year, Reagan, with his film career already in decline, became the president of the Screen Actors Guild. By his own admission, Reagan immediately aligned himself with the corrupt Teamsters and other mob-connected unions in an effort to combat Hollywood Reds.

A sweetheart relationship developed between MCA and the guild, which culminated in July 1952 during Reagan's fifth consecutive term as SAG's president. Reagan and Laurence Beilenson, an attorney for MCA who had previously served as SAG's general counsel and had represented Reagan in his 1949 divorce from Jane Wyman, negotiated an exclusive blanket waiver with SAG that permitted MCA to engage in unlimited film production. The agreement violated SAG's bylaws, which prohibited talent agencies from employing their own clients, and no other talent agency was granted a similar agreement at that time. A Justice Department memorandum indicated that the waiver became "the central fact of MCA's whole rise to power."

At the end of Reagan's fifth term, he began to have serious financial problems, particularly with the IRS. In response, MCA negotiated a deal with the Last Frontier Hotel in Las Vegas--which was then operated by Chicago mobsters--for Reagan to host a song-and-dance show for two weeks and to receive enough money to cover his back tax debt. When Reagan returned to Hollywood, MCA, through its newly formed Revue Productions, hired him to host its flagship television program, The General Electric Theater for $125,000 a year. He was paid additional fees when he produced episodes for the series.

Despite his status as a television producer, Reagan remained on SAG's board in another violation of the guild's bylaws, which prohibited producers from holding office in SAG. In 1959, when Reagan ran for an unprecedented sixth term as SAG's president, his opponents raised the bylaws issue. Publicly, Reagan denied that he had ever produced The General Electric Theater--a flat-out lie.

Wasserman had encouraged Reagan to run again. MCA was facing sensitive negotiations with SAG over residual motion picture rights for actors. The issue eventually forced SAG to strike in 1960, and Reagan became the actors' chief negotiator. Labor attorney Sidney Korshak aided Reagan and the studios in the final settlement. Years later, The New York Times characterized Korshak as the link between the legitimate business world and organized crime.

The contract that Reagan and company arranged with the studios is still known in Hollywood as "The Great Giveaway"; it provided residuals for actors only from films made after 1960. This greatly benefited MCA, which had purchased the film library of Paramount Pictures in 1959. Now, MCA could keep all the profits.

In 1962, the Justice Department filed a federal antitrust suit against MCA on the basis that it was both a talent agency and a production company; SAG was charged as a coconspirator.

Reagan was the subject of criminal and civil investigations by both the FBI and a federal grand jury in Los Angeles. A Justice Department memorandum quoted a Hollywood source as saying, "Ronald Reagan is a complete slave of MCA who would do their bidding on anything."

Reagan was subpoenaed before the grand jury, but he appeared to experience amnesia during his testimony on February 5, 1962, and failed to recall the major decisions that had been made when SAG had granted MCA the exclusive blanket waiver in 1952. Federal prosecutors were so convinced that Reagan had perjured himself repeatedly during his testimony that they subpoenaed his and his wife's income tax returns for the years 1952 to 1955. Nancy Reagan had been a member of SAG's board of directors since 1951.

The entire transcript of this testimony is contained in my 1986 book, Dark Victory: Ronald Reagan, MCA, and the Mob (Viking Press, pp. 167-201), which is now out of print. (Previously, the most influential book about Reagan--which contained only one brief cite in the index to MCA and no mention of Jules Stein--had been written by Washington Post reporter Lou Cannon, whose 1982 book, Reagan, had been published by Putnam, a subsidiary of MCA.)

However, in July 1962--in the wake of MCA's purchase of Decca Records, the parent company of Universal Pictures--MCA agreed to abolish its talent agency. As a result, all charges against and investigations of the company and its alleged coconspirators were dropped and the record of the case was sealed.

Deeply affected by the breakup of MCA, Reagan, a lifelong Democrat, became an anti-big government Republican. He had been urged to do so by his own political mentor, Taft Schreiber, a longtime MCA vice president, and by MCA's founder, Jules Stein, both of whom were active in Republican politics.

On December 13, 1966, the month after Reagan was elected governor of California, Schreiber and Stein, along with Reagan's personal attorney, William French Smith (who later became Reagan’s attorney general), sold 236 of Reagan's 290 acres in Malibu Canyon to Twentieth Century-Fox. The purchase price was $1.93 million, or $8,178 an acre—even though Fox's experts had appraised the land at only $944,000, or $4,000 an acre.

In July 1968, Reagan used the remaining 54 acres in Malibu Canyon (which were appraised at $165,000) as a down payment on a $346,950 property in Riverside, California, that he was buying from Kaiser Aluminum Company. However, there was a proviso in the contract that said that if Kaiser couldn't sell the 54 acres within a year, Reagan would have to buy them back.

By July 1969, Kaiser hadn't sold the land. To bail Governor Reagan out, Stein set up the 57th Madison Corporation, which was chartered in Delaware, and personally purchased the property for $165,000.

Stein died in 1981, soon after Reagan’s inauguration as President of the United States.

As President, Reagan watched as his Justice Department quashed major federal investigations of the Mafia’s penetration of both MCA and the entire motion picture industry, which were being conducted by the Los Angeles office of the U.S. Strike Force Against Organized Crime. Two highly respected Strike Force prosecutors, Marvin Rudnick and Richard Stavin, lost their jobs because of their refusal to succumb to pressure from the Reagan Administration.
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02-06-2011, 03:28 PM
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And Reagan had NOTHING to do with the collapse of the Soviet Union. It fell on it's own from the inside, and the fall started long before Reagan shouted "tear down this wall".
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02-06-2011, 10:22 PM
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Thanks for the post, NJM.

Now I do know some righties so far gone they would say to that list, so, that's all good!
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But a good reminder for the still sane.

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02-07-2011, 03:59 PM
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Reagan was FIRED by GE...

Reagan was fired by General Electric in 1962 in response to his reference to the TVA as one of the problems of "big government".[2] Reagan would subsequently reiterate his points in his famous 1964 televised speech for Republican presidential nominee Barry M. Goldwater of Arizona entitled, "A Time for Choosing"[3]:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Ele...l_Electric


Anyone else get the feeling that the GOP is resurecting Reagan to run against Obama? They had to get a dead man to come even close... and he's not even close.

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02-07-2011, 04:11 PM
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True, JL, they keep wanting their new Reagan. And they just don't have one. All they have is complete nutcases.

I wonder if they will pull another actor out to run in 2012? Clint Eastwood maybe? I guess Fred Thompson sank. Maybe Gopher or Mary Bono.

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02-07-2011, 08:19 PM
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Here's Ben Quayle thought on Reagan..

"When I was a child, President Ronald Reagan was the nice man who gave us jelly beans when we visited the White House.

I didn’t know then, but I know it now: The jelly beans were much more than a sweet treat that he gave out as gifts. They represented the uniqueness and greatness of America — each one different and special in its own way, but collectively they blended in harmony."
VomitVomit

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/021...z1DKViB3U5

He sounds like a chip off the ol block.

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