And it's over the cliff we go!

[azmouse]

From NBC News: House aides say there will not be a vote on fiscal cliff package tonight

[There Is No Spoon]

Ass hole Republicans.

[Myra]

The do nothing political party of Sen. John McCain ...

[janedrake]

It's been a slow burn, but today's the day I finally make it official -- I really don't care for Luke Russert as a pundit. First, I listened to his uninterrupted Rick-Santelli-style two-minute-or-so rant on MSNBC's The Cycle earlier today, in which he went on and on with a "both sides are to blame" nonsensical argument, and now this tweet:



Out of everything he could have highlighted, this kind of dumbery is what he chose.

This entire episode is the House's fault. This entire "cliff/debt ceiling/sequester" nonsense is the brainchild of House and Senate Republicans.

As for the bill that the House "don't have" -- they've blocked a bill since July 2012 that would have prevented this ginned-up crisis and lowered taxes on everyone except for the likes of their precious Kochs and Adelsons.

Russert's tweet makes it official for me -- the man comes across as an idiot.

[pappy]

(12-31-2012 04:03 PM)janedrake Wrote:  It's been a slow burn, but today's the day I finally make it official -- I really don't care for Luke Russert as a pundit. First, I listened to his uninterrupted Rick-Santelli-style two-minute-or-so rant on MSNBC's The Cycle earlier today, in which he went on and on with a "both sides are to blame" nonsensical argument, and now this tweet:



Out of everything he could have highlighted, this kind of dumbery is what he chose.

This entire episode is the House's fault. This entire "cliff/debt ceiling/sequester" nonsense is the brainchild of House and Senate Republicans.

As for the bill that the House "don't have" -- they've blocked a bill since July 2012 that would have prevented this ginned-up crisis and lowered taxes on everyone except for the likes of their precious Kochs and Adelsons.

Russert's tweet makes it official for me -- the man comes across as an idiot.

I don't have an official dumbfuckery stamp but if I did I'd ink it up and stamp it on his forehead.

[pappy]

I hope I packed my parachute correctly.

[Brewman_Jax]

Just heard the news. I'm not shocked. The republicants once show that their hatred of PBO and the 99% is all they act on. The people be damned!

Now, they get to vote on tax cuts later on to show that they've something.

[Born_A_Truman]

Not so fast ... Cliffmas is on hold. Biden at The Hill. Deal has been reached. Now we'll see how the GOP will F-it-up.

Stay tuned ...

Oh, and Happy New Year DFP!!

[SeattleGirl]

Senate approved the bill 89-8.

Tuesday, it goes to the House.

God help us all!

[pappy]

Constitutionally all revenue measures must originate in the house.

Now call me a skeptic or worse a conspiracy nut but I cannot shake the feeling that the Republicans have something up their sleeve. It would not surprise me to learn that a group of the extremists on the right take this "deal" (if passed by the house) to the SCOTUS to seek a ruling of unconstitutionality.

[godlesszombie]

For real.*Boehner/Tea Party facepalm*

[godlesszombie]

Unfortunately, that doesn't sound THAT paranoid or crazy. You never know what to expect from Boehner, Cantor, et. al

[azmouse]

(01-01-2013 10:19 AM)godlesszombie Wrote:  Unfortunately, that doesn't sound THAT paranoid or crazy. You never know what to expect from Boehner, Cantor, et. al

Yep. Even though it appears some deal has been reached, it's not really over until a vote is taken. I'll wait to see what the crazies in the House do.


Welcome to DFP. I like your screen name.

[pappy]

My concerns are somewhat relieved because the Senate actually amended HR 8 and sent it back to the House which is what they will be voting on. Technically it would then pass constitutional muster.

BUT

This is still a Teapublican dominated House and I fully expect amendments and objections to be made. I think it a strong possibility that they will make amendments to several aspects that would kill the deal when it goes back to the Senate.

One big thing I expect them to try to modify is the $400/$450 thousand tax threshold. If they amend it up nearer to the $1 Million mark the deal is dead. If they amend the percentage down by any amount I think it is dead.

On the Democratic side I think it is possible some will try to extend the sequester time limit out to 6 or 12 months. At 6 months it might still pass the Senate but at 12 I think it is dead although I don't see 12 months getting through the House anyway.

[pappy]

Quote:michael viqueira ‏@mikeviqueira

Seen at the White House: Golf clubs loaded into van on West Executive drive

[suzie]

While a lot of others bash politicians relentlessly, I've always found it interesting to watch them make changes in their attitudes, their stances as public opinion changes. At the local level, you see the City Council/County Commissioners vote YES on some unnecessary project only to discover that 300 people have packed the chambers to protest at the next meeting. Suddenly, they relent and change their votes and the project gets shelved or changed substantially.

You see Obama making the change in his stance on gay marriage over the past year.

But, the Tea Partiers are not politicians, they're simply ideologues who managed to get elected in a strange year and care little for what their constituents think or want. They don't want to participate in politics, they want to draw their really nice Congressional salaries, enjoy all the perks and spout their ideology.

If Republicans were wise, they'd ungerrymander the whole lot of them and let them go the way of those who usually don't pay attention to the electorate--back to being just one more voter.

[There Is No Spoon]

Looks like the a-holes are trying to add spending cuts to the bill.

[There Is No Spoon]

(01-01-2013 06:41 PM)There Is No Spoon Wrote:  Looks like the a-holes are trying to add spending cuts to the bill.

And now the Returds appear to have caved and will vote for the Senate bill.