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**Baltoman991** · 01-16-2011, 12:48 PM

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/01/16/...3%7C195658

I hope he really means this and others start coming around as well.

***There Is No Spoon*** · 01-16-2011, 12:56 PM

McCain drew the short straw Rolleyes

**Baltoman991** · 01-16-2011, 01:02 PM

(01-16-2011 12:56 PM)There Is No Spoon Wrote: McCain drew the short straw

I was thinking the same thing but I'm holding out a bit of hope.

**Cha** · 01-16-2011, 01:08 PM

Country first, McCain? Wonder if he's one of those republicans who is for the Dems and Repubs sitting together at the State of the Union?

**Baltoman991** · (This post was last modified: 01-16-2011 04:06 PM by Baltoman991.)

(01-16-2011 01:08 PM)Cha Wrote: Country first, McCain? Wonder if he's one of those republicans who is for the Dems and Repubs sitting together at the State of the Union?

I just read a little blurb on Yahoo I beleive that says Coburn and Schumer have said they will buck tradition and sit together for the State of the Union. Could we really be seeing a change or is this just until the Arizona tragedy blows over? Time will tell I guess.

2 senators agree to sit together for Obama address

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110116/ap_o..._the_union

**pappy** · 01-16-2011, 06:49 PM

(01-16-2011 04:02 PM)Baltoman991 Wrote:
(01-16-2011 01:08 PM)Cha Wrote: Country first, McCain? Wonder if he's one of those republicans who is for the Dems and Repubs sitting together at the State of the Union?

I just read a little blurb on Yahoo I beleive that says Coburn and Schumer have said they will buck tradition and sit together for the State of the Union. Could we really be seeing a change or is this just until the Arizona tragedy blows over? Time will tell I guess.

2 senators agree to sit together for Obama address

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110116/ap_o..._the_union

Seems sad that the fact that a Republican and a Democrat sitting together makes news.

**Cha** · 01-16-2011, 07:02 PM

(01-16-2011 04:02 PM)Baltoman991 Wrote:
(01-16-2011 01:08 PM)Cha Wrote: Country first, McCain? Wonder if he's one of those republicans who is for the Dems and Repubs sitting together at the State of the Union?

I just read a little blurb on Yahoo I beleive that says Coburn and Schumer have said they will buck tradition and sit together for the State of the Union. Could we really be seeing a change or is this just until the Arizona tragedy blows over? Time will tell I guess.

2 senators agree to sit together for Obama address

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110116/ap_o..._the_union

Wow, Coburn! The unthinkable happened in Tucson last Saturday and I can see why this was thought of.. Sweet! It was Mark Udell's-D Colo idea..

Says Lieberman and McCain have signed on too. We'll see how all this evolves..it would really nice if the civility kept building. I know back in the day the two sides of the aisle had drinks together after sessions. Call me crazy but I think limbaugh's ilk had something to do with putting an end to that.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2011...ing/20592/

***azmouse*** · 01-17-2011, 10:44 AM

(01-16-2011 07:02 PM)Cha Wrote: We'll see how all this evolves..it would really nice if the civility kept building.

This is what Pres Obama wished for all along. How sad that it took the Tucson tragedy to kick start it.

**RoyGBiv** · 01-18-2011, 08:45 AM

(01-17-2011 10:44 AM)azmouse Wrote:
(01-16-2011 07:02 PM)Cha Wrote: We'll see how all this evolves..it would really nice if the civility kept building.

This is what Pres Obama wished for all along. How sad that it took the Tucson tragedy to kick start it.

This is sadly the way the world seems to work.

Something really dramatic has to happen, and be noticed by the media, before anyone really takes notice and attempts to do anything about it.

Pardon the tangent, but it's the same with a lot of things. I was watching a show the other day on our crumbling infrastructure, focusing on levee systems in the US. No one ever thought to catalog them, much less determine their viability, until after Katrina. Now that they are, they're finding a lot of them that are on the verge of collapse. Half of Sacramento will be just gone if its levee goes, for example.

What's worse, I think, is that even when something does happen to capture our notice, of changes (real, fundamental changes) are not made immediately, the thoughts of the tragedy will wane, and it all goes back to the way it was, sometimes even worse than the way it was. Who remembers a bridge collapsing in Minnesota? Wouldn't that kind of thing be a serious call for massive infrastructure repair spending? One would think, but no one talks about it now, and spending of that variety is still not considered on as large a scale as is needed.

This is all a long way of repeating what I said above in a more serious way. I'll believe things are improving when some time has passed with more than singular gestures like these occurring. A lot more people need to be standing up and telling these fools just to shut the hell up.

***NJMaverick*** · 01-16-2011, 01:28 PM

Sadly the other side has 3 separate parts. You have old time Republicans like McCain. These guys are willing to be more reasonable. Then you have the Tea Party. These people belong to a modern version of the KKK and are not likely to change their hateful ways. Finally you have the hateful liberals and they are about as likely to reform their ways as your average tea party member

**mzmolly** · 01-16-2011, 01:34 PM

Perhaps he's listening to his daughter about how the R/W is turning off most youth voters with their irrational hate speech. I'm glad he too, took a moment to lead, unlike Palin.

**Andy823** · 01-16-2011, 01:58 PM

I also hope he means what he says, and maybe, just maybe, he knows his roll in all this was when he picked Palin for his VP, and he didn't bother to realize just what kind of a person she really was. Perhaps now he does realize the kind of person she is, and he can't stand by any longer and ignore his part of the hate going on in the republican party these days!

**Cha** · 01-16-2011, 02:37 PM

(01-16-2011 01:58 PM)Andy823 Wrote: I also hope he means what he says, and maybe, just maybe, he knows his roll in all this was when he picked Palin for his VP, and he didn't bother to realize just what kind of a person she really was. Perhaps now he does realize the kind of person she is, and he can't stand by any longer and ignore his part of the hate going on in the republican party these days!

Important point and this is a verbal smack down to all things Palin.

**RoyGBiv** · 01-16-2011, 02:44 PM

I hate that I'm this cynical, but I am.

This strikes me as the kind of thing people do when, as my great-aunts and uncles would have said, they realize they're old, and they're trying to get into Heaven.

**Cha** · 01-16-2011, 03:41 PM

(01-16-2011 02:44 PM)RoyGBiv Wrote: I hate that I'm this cynical, but I am.

This strikes me as the kind of thing people do when, as my great-aunts and uncles would have said, they realize they're old, and they're trying to get into Heaven.

The rate John McCain was going I never thought he would get to that point.. we'll see if he changes his mind again.

Who was it who said? "If you're not a cynic you're not paying attention"? I would add.."to the rhetoric of the rw-corporate media propaganda.

**mzmolly** · 01-16-2011, 03:54 PM

(01-16-2011 02:44 PM)RoyGBiv Wrote: I hate that I'm this cynical, but I am.

This strikes me as the kind of thing people do when, as my great-aunts and uncles would have said, they realize they're old, and they're trying to get into Heaven.

Agreed. When it comes to McCain, any cynicism is warranted.

**jaxx** · 01-16-2011, 08:50 PM

McCain saying nice things about the President reminds me of when he told the lady at a townhall that Obama wasn't a muslim. He said the right thing....after he stood by and watched Palin smear him. Now he says the right thing again. Too late.

**CTLawGuy** · 01-17-2011, 07:36 AM

(01-16-2011 12:48 PM)Baltoman991 Wrote: http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/01/16/...3%7C195658

I hope he really means this and others start coming around as well.

guess who's not running for president in 2012.

**Hekate** · 01-18-2011, 06:27 PM

Took him long enough. Grampy could give lessons in churlishness to Ebenezer Scrooge. I hope now that he has spoken out once he will do it again, and maybe some on the right will take heed. I heard an early morning interview with Newt Gingrich that made me want to throw the tv out the window -- the far-RW is equal parts batshit crazy and evil powermongering.

Hekate