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**PoliticalTiger** · 05-09-2012, 02:53 PM

Statement from Log Cabin Republicans:

“That the president has chosen today, when LGBT Americans are mourning the passage of Amendment One, to finally speak up for marriage equality is offensive and callous,” said R. Clarke Cooper, Log Cabin Republicans Executive Director. “Log Cabin Republicans appreciate that President Obama has finally come in line with leaders like Vice President Dick Cheney on this issue, but LGBT Americans are right to be angry that this calculated announcement comes too late to be of any use to the people of North Carolina, or any of the other states that have addressed this issue on his watch. This administration has manipulated LGBT families for political gain as much as anybody, and after his campaign’s ridiculous contortions to deny support for marriage equality this week he does not deserve praise for an announcement that comes a day late and a dollar short.”

Statement from Gay Tea Party group GOProud:

“It is good to see that after intense political pressure that President Obama has finally come around to the Dick Cheney position on marriage equality. I am sure, however, the President’s newly discovered support for marriage is cold comfort to the gay couples in North Carolina. The President waited until after North Carolina passed a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.”

“This is hardly a profile in courage by President Obama. For years now, President Obama has tried his hardest to have it both ways on this issue.

“The real kudos here goes to LGBT activists and their allies who finally forced the President into yielding on this issue.”

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Two points I wish to make:

1) Obama spoke out against North Carolina's Amendment One before it even came up for a vote, and I doubt very much if he came out in favor of gay marriage before it came up for a vote it would have made any difference.

2) Both these groups support Mitt Romney.

**KonaKane** · 05-09-2012, 03:05 PM

I've never understood that group. Being gay and supporting the GOP (let alone Tea Party) is like being Jews for Hitler. Chickens for Colonel Sanders.

**Blue_Roses** · 05-10-2012, 06:09 AM

(05-09-2012 03:05 PM)KonaKane Wrote: I've never understood that group. Being gay and supporting the GOP (let alone Tea Party) is like being Jews for Hitler. Chickens for Colonel Sanders.

Boils down to one word:denial.

**jaxx** · 05-09-2012, 03:06 PM

Wait till they see Willard denouncing marriage equality, they'll be so thrilled.

**KonaKane** · 05-09-2012, 03:40 PM

(05-09-2012 03:06 PM)jaxx Wrote: Wait till they see Willard denouncing marriage equality, they'll be so thrilled.

As right as you are, I seriously don't think they will care. These people are either the absolute most insane people supporting everything against their own interests, or the dumbest human beings ever to roam the soil.

**Drunken Irishman** · 05-09-2012, 03:11 PM

Jews for Hitler.

**Fire1** · 05-09-2012, 04:08 PM

(05-09-2012 02:53 PM)PoliticalTiger Wrote: Statement from Log Cabin Republicans:

“That the president has chosen today, when LGBT Americans are mourning the passage of Amendment One, to finally speak up for marriage equality is offensive and callous,” said R. Clarke Cooper, Log Cabin Republicans Executive Director. “Log Cabin Republicans appreciate that President Obama has finally come in line with leaders like Vice President Dick Cheney on this issue, but LGBT Americans are right to be angry that this calculated announcement comes too late to be of any use to the people of North Carolina, or any of the other states that have addressed this issue on his watch. This administration has manipulated LGBT families for political gain as much as anybody, and after his campaign’s ridiculous contortions to deny support for marriage equality this week he does not deserve praise for an announcement that comes a day late and a dollar short.”

Statement from Gay Tea Party group GOProud:

“It is good to see that after intense political pressure that President Obama has finally come around to the Dick Cheney position on marriage equality. I am sure, however, the President’s newly discovered support for marriage is cold comfort to the gay couples in North Carolina. The President waited until after North Carolina passed a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.”

“This is hardly a profile in courage by President Obama. For years now, President Obama has tried his hardest to have it both ways on this issue.

“The real kudos here goes to LGBT activists and their allies who finally forced the President into yielding on this issue.”

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Two points I wish to make:

1) Obama spoke out against North Carolina's Amendment One before it even came up for a vote, and I doubt very much if he came out in favor of gay marriage before it came up for a vote it would have made any difference.

2) Both these groups support Mitt Romney.

It really doesn't matter and I had hoped Potus would have come to that conclusion before making that announcement. The Dem faction of LGBT will not be satisfied, either. They weren't going to vote for him, anyway. This group will continue its' divisive agenda. Next!

**Velleity** · 05-09-2012, 04:37 PM

Mind boggling.

Yeah, the GOP is going to cater to the "Log Cabin Republicans." That's why Republicans are so busy trying to roll back women's rights and civil rights to the way they were in 1950.

How many "Log Cabin Republicans" are there? Is Larry Craig a member? Oh, wait. Isn't in the "Closeted Gay Anti-Gay Republicans?"

***azmouse*** · 05-09-2012, 06:58 PM

(05-09-2012 04:37 PM)Velleity Wrote: Mind boggling.

Yeah, the GOP is going to cater to the "Log Cabin Republicans." That's why Republicans are so busy trying to roll back women's rights and civil rights to the way they were in 1950.
How many "Log Cabin Republicans" are there? Is Larry Craig a member? Oh, wait. Isn't in the "Closeted Gay Anti-Gay Republicans?"

I think that should be 1850.

**Born_A_Truman** · 05-09-2012, 05:57 PM

How hypocritical can you be to criticize president Obama like that when your own party and presidential candidate refuses to even support not only marriage equality, but civil unions?

**OptimistesMaddie** · 05-09-2012, 06:16 PM

a protected class in the Repuglican party.....they aren't even allowed to speak up...they have to stay quiet to particpate. That's on them....they will reap what they sow..

**KonaKane** · 05-09-2012, 06:24 PM

Stockholm Syndrome.

**sandnsea** · 05-09-2012, 07:08 PM

Dick Cheney? Oh yeah, he was leading marches against gay marriage amendments all across the country. Don't you all remember???

Can I just shake one of these people, argh.

**Drunken Irishman** · 05-09-2012, 11:59 PM

(05-09-2012 07:08 PM)sandnsea Wrote: Dick Cheney? Oh yeah, he was leading marches against gay marriage amendments all across the country. Don't you all remember???

Can I just shake one of these people, argh.

Agreed. Where the hell was Cheney in 2004? Oh yeah, that's right, opposing gay marriage.

**Brewman_Jax** · 05-10-2012, 06:33 AM

Of course they aren't happy. They're once again being reminded that they are considered second-class citizens by the party they support.

Gays for the GOP, like Jews for Hitler, black people for the KKK, chickens for Colonel Sanders.

**suzie** · (This post was last modified: 05-10-2012 09:23 AM by suzie.)

I saw the spokesman for the Log Cabin Republicans being interviewed last night. He would not respond to the question of whether or not he'd reconsider his vote for Romney.

He's voting for Obama, just won't say it.

**Still a Democrat** · 05-10-2012, 09:44 AM

I really wonder if this is something of a front group with very few active members. Something like Jane Hamster's imaginary following.

**Born_A_Truman** · 05-11-2012, 10:20 AM

(05-10-2012 09:44 AM)Still a Democrat Wrote: I really wonder if this is something of a front group with very few active members. Something like Jane Hamster's imaginary following.

I made the mistake of checking FDL after POTUS made his statement about SSM and the post was buried on their page and the comment section was like watching a pre-school temper trantrum.

**Proud Liberal Dem** · 05-11-2012, 02:30 PM

(05-10-2012 09:44 AM)Still a Democrat Wrote: I really wonder if this is something of a front group with very few active members. Something like Jane Hamster's imaginary following.

I've wondered the same thing. They sure as hell don't act like LGBT rights organizations or at least they're letting their apparent distaste for President Obama overwhelm their judgement when it comes to their advocacy for LGBT rights, which the GOP is never going to even modestly support as long as the fundies are in charge of their social agenda. I think that these groups are more like the typical ones spun out by the GOP to try to bleed a few votes from African-Americans, women, Catholics, etc. from the Democratic Party.

**Proud Liberal Dem** · 05-11-2012, 02:25 PM

IMHO they ought to just roll up their tent (or cabin) and go back to just calling themselves Republicans because that's all they are. They may *say* they want equality but they're not getting any from their party- not now or ever and they seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time attacking the one party that is actually advancing LGBT equality. BTW in regards to these group's admiration of Dick Cheney, how has he personally "gone out on a limb" supporting LGBT equality other than refusing to make his daughter a pariah and saying that he thinks she should be able to get married? Did the Bush DOJ stop enforcing DOMA? Make a push to open up the armed forces to everybody regardless of sexual orientation- IN A TIME OF WAR when there were undoubtedly LGBT soldiers with invaluable experience/skills being discharged under DADT? Did he speak out against any of the anti-marriage equality measures on the ballots in 2004? Did he condemn the Republicans' cynical ploy to pass an anti-marriage equality amendment in 2006 right before they got wiped out of office? Did he condemn the NC amendment? Cheney- and a few other Republicans- might have the right stance on marriage equality but AFAIK aren't out there championing it in any way or doing anything else to advance LGBT equality.

**KonaKane** · 05-11-2012, 03:13 PM

I can't find any serious inquiry as to the possible faux nature of the LCRs, but one site had an interesting "slip of the tongue" when it named the new group GOProud as the "new front group" for LGBT Republican constituency.

**Proud Liberal Dem** · 05-11-2012, 10:37 PM

(05-11-2012 03:13 PM)KonaKane Wrote: I can't find any serious inquiry as to the possible faux nature of the LCRs, but one site had an interesting "slip of the tongue" when it named the new group GOProud as the "new front group" for LGBT Republican constituency.

To me the groups seem to represent Republicans whom just happen to be gay. I don't get the sense that they really care about what the GOP actually says or does about LGBT equality. Still, lambasting President Obama on his announcement of support for marriage equality and holding up Dick Cheney as some kind of role model for supporting marriage equality while giving 99.9999999% of the GOP-whose record on advancing LGBT equality is abysmal- a pass is just frankly bizarre IMHO. I just don't get it.
Facepalm

**sandnsea** · (This post was last modified: 05-12-2012 11:05 AM by sandnsea.)

I think my cousin might be in this group. Other than supporting gay rights, I haven't seen him support anything else that would remotely resemble the Democratic Party. Immigration, welfare bums, right down the line, sometimes he sounds as bad as any teabagger out there. He didn't even post anything acknowledging Obama's support of gay marriage, even though he refers to himself as married in the state of Missouri, which will never happen without the Supreme Court. Makes me very sad.

I think I'll add that his beliefs aren't that far off of what I hear from any given white person on any given day, Democrat or Republican. Being frustrated with illegal immigration when you can't find a job that you know 1,000 illegals in your town are filling; or frustrated with your tax bill when you know 40% of babies are born on Medicaid while the moms are on welfare; lots of people get frustrated with this stuff.