Matt Damon, asshat

[KonaKane]

(12-26-2011 11:15 PM)SemiCharmedQuark Wrote:  Again, you resort to personal attacks.

Nothing personal about it. It's a shallow understanding! That doesn't mean you are, anyone can have a shallow understanding of something without being shallow themselves.

[There Is No Spoon]

(12-26-2011 11:16 PM)KonaKane Wrote:  

(12-26-2011 11:15 PM)SemiCharmedQuark Wrote:  Again, you resort to personal attacks.

Nothing personal about it. It's a shallow understanding! That doesn't mean you are, anyone can have a shallow understanding of something without being shallow themselves.

It's still walking a fine line in context - I'd prefer less loaded/heavy terms.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

(12-26-2011 11:16 PM)KonaKane Wrote:  

(12-26-2011 11:15 PM)SemiCharmedQuark Wrote:  Again, you resort to personal attacks.

Nothing personal about it. It's a shallow understanding! That doesn't mean you are, anyone can have a shallow understanding of something without being shallow themselves.

You argue that Matt Damen is a smart, educated man. I agree. This means he understands how the world works, right? Now. He has criticized Obama before and it got a smattering of headlines. Why? Because the criticism was ideas based...he criticized Obamas education policy.

So here comes another interview. What does he do? He makes an extremely inflammatory statement that bolsters RW memes. It makes a much bigger impact. Does anyone care about education policy? Healthcare policy? Any of the points Damen made the last time? No. The only thing it does is act as a RW advertisement on a national platform.

Now why would he do that knowing how our media works? Anger probably. But unlike the anger directed at him here, which has zero consequences, his gets front page on Yahoo.

[KonaKane]

(12-26-2011 11:24 PM)SemiCharmedQuark Wrote:  You argue that Matt Damen is a smart, educated man. I agree. This means he understands how the world works, right? Now. He has criticized Obama before and it got a smattering of headlines. Why? Because the criticism was ideas based...he criticized Obamas education policy.

So here comes another interview. What does he do? He makes an extremely inflammatory statement that bolsters RW memes. It makes a much bigger impact. Does anyone care about education policy? Healthcare policy? Any of the points Damen made the last time? No. The only thing it does is act as a RW advertisement on a national platform.

Now why would he do that knowing how our media works? Anger probably. But unlike the anger directed at him here, which has zero consequences, his gets front page on Yahoo.

Your suggestion that he is suddenly a RW shill, is taking a vacation from reality. He, like you, is human. He gets angry, he gets frustrated. We all do. We may not always do so at the same times and under the same circumstances, but we do nonetheless. Someone like him, who has done such good for the principles I hold dear, I am willing to cut him some slack even if i don't agree with his assessment of this president...and not consign him to nonexistence ("could fall off the planet") simply because he has nicked the Sacred Cow.

What the media chooses to do with his expressions is not up to him. It's up to the media. Maybe you should take a step back and look at the character of a person, their motivations, and the circumstances of the time before relagating them to non existence or emnity because they didn't say something you agreed with at the moment.

I would bet Mr. Damon MIGHT even do the same for you. Just a guess.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

(12-26-2011 11:33 PM)KonaKane Wrote:  

(12-26-2011 11:24 PM)SemiCharmedQuark Wrote:  You argue that Matt Damen is a smart, educated man. I agree. This means he understands how the world works, right? Now. He has criticized Obama before and it got a smattering of headlines. Why? Because the criticism was ideas based...he criticized Obamas education policy.

So here comes another interview. What does he do? He makes an extremely inflammatory statement that bolsters RW memes. It makes a much bigger impact. Does anyone care about education policy? Healthcare policy? Any of the points Damen made the last time? No. The only thing it does is act as a RW advertisement on a national platform.

Now why would he do that knowing how our media works? Anger probably. But unlike the anger directed at him here, which has zero consequences, his gets front page on Yahoo.

Your suggestion that he is suddenly a RW shill, is taking a vacation from reality. He, like you, is human. He gets angry, he gets frustrated. We all do. We may not always do so at the same times and under the same circumstances, but we do nonetheless. Someone like him, who has done such good for the principles I hold dear, I am willing to cut him some slack even if i don't agree with his assessment of this president...and not consign him to nonexistence ("could fall off the planet") simply because he has nicked the Sacred Cow.

What the media chooses to do with his expressions is not up to him. It's up to the media. Maybe you should take a step back and look at the character of a person, their motivations, and the circumstances of the time before relagating them to non existence or emnity because they didn't say something you agreed with at the moment.

I would bet Mr. Damon MIGHT even do the same for you. Just a guess.

I didn't say he was RW, I said the RW would use him.

Part of being an aware individual is understanding the world in which we live. Again, look at the Weiner situation. I don't care what he does with his personal life but I was mad as hell at that affair because I knew (as everyone did) what would happen if he got caught. It doesn't matter that RWers get away with it. We don't have fairness, we have reality.

Likewise, this wasn't Damen getting surprised at the airport, it was a formal interview. And he hasn't walked back the comment.

Finally, regarding my comment...

My point is that Damen's responsibilities and impacts are miniscule compared to the impact a president has.

[NJMaverick]

never known hardship or struggle his entire life. It's no small surprise that he is acting like a spoiled child.

[azmouse]

Thank you all for the debate and conversation.

I would appreciate it if you do not allow any hard feelings from anything said here to spill over onto other threads.

[There Is No Spoon]

(12-27-2011 07:55 AM)NJMaverick Wrote:  never known hardship or struggle his entire life. It's no small surprise that he is acting like a spoiled child.

That's just not true - and how does dropping out of college indicate a spoiled child anyway? Spend a little time reading about his childhood before condemning the man.