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**nofurylike** · 10-08-2011, 05:10 AM

By Steven T. Dennis
October 7, 2011

http://www.rollcall.com/news/harry_reid_...tml#src=db

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) executed a rare power play to box in the GOP on Thursday night, setting a new precedent that effectively nukes a rarely used procedural motion and drawing a vociferous rebuke from Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

Reid’s move to effectively neuter the obscure procedural motion — one that has not been successfully used since 1941 and had not even been attempted this year before today — came after months of frustration over GOP stalling tactics, Democrats said.

“This was not just about this bill,” a senior Democratic aide said. “This was a shot across the bow to Republicans who have been emptying the toolbox to block even the most bipartisan, job-creating, common-sense pieces of legislation.”

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After the dispute, Reid suggested that the Senate return Tuesday for a final vote on the underlying Chinese currency legislation, as well as votes on a revised version of the president’s jobs bill and pending free-trade agreements.

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**jaxx** · 10-08-2011, 06:54 AM

WoW good for Harry Reid. This thing of moving the goalposts when there is a deal has got to stop. He is right to tell the pubs they have gone too far. Just like in the debt ceiling debacle the pubs run when the end is in sight. The last thing they want is to support any Obama/Democratic bill. They are fools.

**nofurylike** · 10-09-2011, 05:04 AM

(10-08-2011 06:54 AM)jaxx Wrote: WoW good for Harry Reid. This thing of moving the goalposts when there is a deal has got to stop. He is right to tell the pubs they have gone too far. Just like in the debt ceiling debacle the pubs run when the end is in sight. The last thing they want is to support any Obama/Democratic bill. They are fools.

VERY well said, jaxx!
thank you!
Wave

**janedrake** · 10-08-2011, 09:28 AM

What a fantastic read. Mitch McConnell is an ongoing utter disgrace to this country - am glad Reid slapped him down on this.

**nofurylike** · 10-09-2011, 05:14 AM

(10-08-2011 09:28 AM)janedrake Wrote: What a fantastic read. Mitch McConnell is an ongoing utter disgrace to this country - am glad Reid slapped him down on this.

isn't it great, janedrake?

YES!! : "Mitch McConnell is an ongoing utter disgrace to this country"
almost unbelievable how much so. vile!!

thank you!

**Brainwreck** · 10-08-2011, 02:23 PM

Harry Reid, he's our man, if he can't do it, no one can. Go Harry! Go Harry! Bounce

**nofurylike** · 10-09-2011, 05:19 AM

(10-08-2011 02:23 PM)Brainwreck Wrote: Harry Reid, he's our man, if he can't do it, no one can. Go Harry! Go Harry!

two four six eight!
who do we appreciate?!
CHEERLEADERS!!

and Harry Reid!!

thank you for that, Brainwreck! Wave

**Cha** · 10-08-2011, 02:53 PM

"When the presiding officer at the time, Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska), ruled that the motions sought by McConnell were not dilatory, a term of art meaning that they are intended to delay, Reid moved that the ruling of the chair be sustained. That led to a simple-majority vote that he wanted to lose and did, 48-51. The move set the precedent that such motions will no longer be allowed."

I take it that this is the part that Reid shutdown Mcconnell's mean spirited attempts at blocking anything anytime that would make the Senate functional but I don't understand quite what happened?

“This was not just about this bill,” a senior Democratic aide said. “This was a shot across the bow to Republicans who have been emptying the toolbox to block even the most bipartisan, job-creating, common-sense pieces of legislation.” This looks very good!

"Senate Democratic leaders are scheduled to meet with President Barack Obama and Vice President Joseph Biden at 10:25 a.m. today in the Oval Office. The meeting was originally planned for late Thursday afternoon, but it was postponed."

Good Luck Dems!

Here's Benen on McConnell's BIG LIE regarding how it's President Obama who's doing all the "obstructing" while ol' Mitch is just trying to get things done. MM is vying for biggest asshole in the history of assholes.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/politic...032698.php

**nofurylike** · 10-09-2011, 05:47 AM

(10-08-2011 02:53 PM)Cha Wrote: "When the presiding officer at the time, Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska), ruled that the motions sought by McConnell were not dilatory, a term of art meaning that they are intended to delay, Reid moved that the ruling of the chair be sustained. That led to a simple-majority vote that he wanted to lose and did, 48-51. The move set the precedent that such motions will no longer be allowed."

I take it that this is the part that Reid shutdown Mcconnell's mean spirited attempts at blocking anything anytime that would make the Senate functional but I don't understand quite what happened?

“This was not just about this bill,” a senior Democratic aide said. “This was a shot across the bow to Republicans who have been emptying the toolbox to block even the most bipartisan, job-creating, common-sense pieces of legislation.” This looks very good!

"Senate Democratic leaders are scheduled to meet with President Barack Obama and Vice President Joseph Biden at 10:25 a.m. today in the Oval Office. The meeting was originally planned for late Thursday afternoon, but it was postponed."

Good Luck Dems!

Here's Benen on McConnell's BIG LIE regarding how it's President Obama who's doing all the "obstructing" while ol' Mitch is just trying to get things done. MM is vying for biggest asshole in the history of assholes.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/politic...032698.php

excellent article from Benen!! thank you so much for posting that, Cha!!

about the rules change, i'm with you wishing a parliamentarian would put the details more clearly than the article did. anyone? Shrug

i am thrilled they are studying their rules and law so minutely, and, in light of that, that this is described as "a shot across the bow."

Wave

**Cha** · 10-09-2011, 12:17 PM

(10-09-2011 05:47 AM)nofurylike Wrote: excellent article from Benen!! thank you so much for posting that, Cha!!

about the rules change, i'm with you wishing a parliamentarian would put the details more clearly than the article did. anyone?
i am thrilled they are studying their rules and law so minutely, and, in light of that, that this is described as "a shot across the bow."

Yeah, I was really trying to learn what was done by Harry but I kept reading over and over and it still wasn't satisfying so I decided to ask.

Wave

**nofurylike** · 10-09-2011, 11:31 PM

(10-09-2011 12:17 PM)Cha Wrote:
(10-09-2011 05:47 AM)nofurylike Wrote: excellent article from Benen!! thank you so much for posting that, Cha!!

about the rules change, i'm with you wishing a parliamentarian would put the details more clearly than the article did. anyone?
i am thrilled they are studying their rules and law so minutely, and, in light of that, that this is described as "a shot across the bow."

Yeah, I was really trying to learn what was done by Harry but I kept reading over and over and it still wasn't satisfying so I decided to ask.

me too, Cha! i swear, it's as if the writer didn't proofread, and used a couple of ambiguous pronouns, and maybe an incorrect negative ....

anybody here a parliamentary rules expert? Shrug

thanks, Cha! Wave

**Willinois** · 10-09-2011, 06:19 PM

At least Reid finally grew one ball, 2 1/2 years too late.

Who are the Democrats that don't support the jobs bill? I'd like to know. We don't need them. And frankly, I'm tired of Reid protecting them by not forcing votes. That's exactly what he did with the cap-and-trade bill last year.

**nofurylike** · 10-09-2011, 11:36 PM

(10-09-2011 06:19 PM)Willinois Wrote: At least Reid finally grew one ball, 2 1/2 years too late.

Who are the Democrats that don't support the jobs bill? I'd like to know. We don't need them. And frankly, I'm tired of Reid protecting them by not forcing votes. That's exactly what he did with the cap-and-trade bill last year.

i'd like to know who those Dem's are too, Willinois.

thank you!