GOP Debate Tonight (June 13, 2011)

[Born_A_Truman]

The candidates participating in the debate, from left: Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum, Herman Cain, Ron Paul
(Credit: CBS/Getty Images)

CNN hosting. Link

[RoyGBiv]

MY GOD!

[Born_A_Truman]

Pass the butter!!

[RoyGBiv]

(06-13-2011 11:01 AM)Born_A_Truman Wrote:  Pass the butter!!

It's terrifying!

I need my banky.

[sandnsea]

Were Democrats debating in the summer of 2003 or 2007? I don't remember that. This is a potemkin primary to give them a free media platform to beat up on Obama. They can't win with the crap they're actually doing in the House, so they're going to have this dog and pony show instead.

[Born_A_Truman]

(06-13-2011 11:58 AM)sandnsea Wrote:  Were Democrats debating in the summer of 2003 or 2007? I don't remember that. This is a potemkin primary to give them a free media platform to beat up on Obama. They can't win with the crap they're actually doing in the House, so they're going to have this dog and pony show instead.

The first Democratic debate was in the evening of April 26, 2007, in Orangeburg, South Carolina, at South Carolina State University. State party chairman Joe Erwin said that he chose South Carolina State because it is a historically black college, noting that African-Americans have been the "most loyal" Democrats in the state.[8] The debate was 90 minutes with a 60-second time limit for answers, and no opening or closing statements.[9] It was broadcast via cable television and online video streaming by MSNBC.[10]

The debate was moderated by Brian Williams of NBC Nightly News. Franklin Pierce University in Rindge, New Hampshire sent two students to cover the debate on location who gained spin room access.

The major issue discussed was the Iraq War, with all candidates strongly criticizing President George W. Bush.[9] Although there was some initial hype,[11] the debate was seen by pundits as unspectacular, with no single "breakout" candidate.[11][12] A poll of 403 South Carolina debate watchers indicated that they believed Senator Barack Obama won the debate with 31% to Clinton's 24%.[13] However, Tom Baldwin of The Times and Ewen MacAskill of The Guardian both reported that Clinton appeared to retain her frontrunner status.[14]

Political pundits such as Chris Matthews, Howard Fineman, Keith Olbermann and Joe Scarborough declared that Clinton was the most "presidential", in that her appearance and answers were succinct, within the time limit and thorough, leaving no second-guesses. They effectively called her the winner.

With regards to the solid third-polled candidate Former Sen. John Edwards (D-NC), pundits varied, with some asserting that his performance was weak and not the usual energetic performance that he portrayed in 2003, when he first ran. Howard Fineman also opined that questions regarding his $400 haircut and his "Two Americas" theme are under fire because of severe discrepancies, threatening his main campaign theme.

Walk down memory lane!

[sandnsea]

(06-13-2011 12:56 PM)Born_A_Truman Wrote:  

(06-13-2011 11:58 AM)sandnsea Wrote:  Were Democrats debating in the summer of 2003 or 2007? I don't remember that. This is a potemkin primary to give them a free media platform to beat up on Obama. They can't win with the crap they're actually doing in the House, so they're going to have this dog and pony show instead.

The first Democratic debate was in the evening of April 26, 2007, in Orangeburg, South Carolina, at South Carolina State University. State party chairman Joe Erwin said that he chose South Carolina State because it is a historically black college, noting that African-Americans have been the "most loyal" Democrats in the state.[8] The debate was 90 minutes with a 60-second time limit for answers, and no opening or closing statements.[9] It was broadcast via cable television and online video streaming by MSNBC.[10]

The debate was moderated by Brian Williams of NBC Nightly News. Franklin Pierce University in Rindge, New Hampshire sent two students to cover the debate on location who gained spin room access.

The major issue discussed was the Iraq War, with all candidates strongly criticizing President George W. Bush.[9] Although there was some initial hype,[11] the debate was seen by pundits as unspectacular, with no single "breakout" candidate.[11][12] A poll of 403 South Carolina debate watchers indicated that they believed Senator Barack Obama won the debate with 31% to Clinton's 24%.[13] However, Tom Baldwin of The Times and Ewen MacAskill of The Guardian both reported that Clinton appeared to retain her frontrunner status.[14]

Political pundits such as Chris Matthews, Howard Fineman, Keith Olbermann and Joe Scarborough declared that Clinton was the most "presidential", in that her appearance and answers were succinct, within the time limit and thorough, leaving no second-guesses. They effectively called her the winner.

With regards to the solid third-polled candidate Former Sen. John Edwards (D-NC), pundits varied, with some asserting that his performance was weak and not the usual energetic performance that he portrayed in 2003, when he first ran. Howard Fineman also opined that questions regarding his $400 haircut and his "Two Americas" theme are under fire because of severe discrepancies, threatening his main campaign theme.

Walk down memory lane!

Well yeah, I suppose so, now that I think for two minutes. By this time in 2008 it was pretty much all over but the horse-trading. Thank You.

[Born_A_Truman]

And they're OFF!

[SeattleGirl]

(06-13-2011 05:52 PM)Born_A_Truman Wrote:  And they're OFF!

In more ways than one!

[azmouse]

(06-13-2011 06:31 PM)Punky Wrote:  

(06-13-2011 05:52 PM)Born_A_Truman Wrote:  And they're OFF!

In more ways than one!

That's for sure!

[There Is No Spoon]

Bruins game tonight

[Born_A_Truman]

OMG, Bachmann announced. It's officially bat-shit-crazy time.

[firedupdem]

has anybody answered a question without talking points? Cut taxes and no regulations is the answer to all our problems! These people are garbage!

[RoyGBiv]

(06-13-2011 06:20 PM)firedupdem Wrote:  has anybody answered a question without talking points? Cut taxes and no regulations is the answer to all our problems! These people are garbage!

There are questions?

No one warned them there would be questions.

[johnaries]

(06-13-2011 06:20 PM)firedupdem Wrote:  has anybody answered a question without talking points? Cut taxes and no regulations is the answer to all our problems! These people are garbage!

Don't forget Ron Paul and his endless jihad against the Fed.

My god, they keep pressing for policies that we have tried many times before that NEVER WORKED!

"Obama is a failure" - he avoided a full-blown Depression. What else could he have done in the face of Republican failures?

[johnaries]

OMG. Santorum is supporting Medicare D which was cut because of the extensive fraud. Perhaps he likes Fraud?

[firedupdem]

I had to turn it off...can't handle the nutiness.

[jaxx]

States rights states rights states rights.....I thought somebody would fire on Fort Sumter before it was over. Jeez to listen to them you'd think we don't need a federal government at all.

I heard a bunch of lies. If the President watched he must have been scratching his head and wondering why they avoided the Bush2 years as if they had never happened.

[Julie]

(06-13-2011 08:12 PM)jaxx Wrote:  States rights states rights states rights.....I thought somebody would fire on Fort Sumter before it was over. Jeez to listen to them you'd think we don't need a federal government at all.

I heard a bunch of lies. If the President watched he must have been scratching his head and wondering why they avoided the Bush2 years as if they had never happened.

lol Jaxx! Ah these poor sods. They don't stand a chance of winning. All but one will lose this race and then the winner in this sorry lot of losers will get beaten in '12 by the President. All the while they will be spewing reich-wing talking points and trying to out-do each other to win the lunatic base. It will translate into lots and lots of low-hanging fruit for Stewart & Colbert, etc.

By the time this primary plays out all the contenders, even the winner, will be bloody and bruised, with massive amounts of money being spent. It will be very hard fought and I am going out on a limb here to say, it's gonna get dirty. Reeeeal dirty.

I for one cannot wait! We can devise fun drinking games for the upcoming "debates", sharing laughs with my Dem friends while working together on mailings/fundraisers/campaigns and all manner of good times, all thanks to the GOP clowncar.

Fun times ahead!

Julie--looking forward to it

Julie

[Born_A_Truman]

I would love to see them all hooked up to lie detector machines and take it from there. Oh, and they would get a giant shock for every lie.

[RoyGBiv]

There was not one thing about this that was a debate. It was just a constant stream of flatulence aimed at the Obama administration.

I still don't think any of these people will be the nominee.

[jaxx]

(06-13-2011 08:40 PM)RoyGBiv Wrote:  There was not one thing about this that was a debate. It was just a constant stream of flatulence aimed at the Obama administration.

I still don't think any of these people will be the nominee.

They'll be destroying each other in a few months....tonight they were just spouting talking points. And when Sister Sarah came up as in who made the best VP selection.....I thought they'd all get down and kiss the floor.

[jaxx]

I think it'll get dirty too....and the deer in the headlight look will get a lot of them.

Drinking games....lol we'll be plastered.

[firedupdem]

Pawlenty acted like a scared little squirrel when asked about "obamneycare".....what the heck was that all about? I turned it off a little bit after that.

[Peadar O Suileabhain]

Just so you guys understand, a grand total of 12 New Hampshire voters watched this gong show. The Bruins playoff game is drawing ungodly ratings, and that has everyone's attention.

[There Is No Spoon]

(06-13-2011 09:02 PM)Peadar O Suileabhain Wrote:  Just so you guys understand, a grand total of 12 New Hampshire voters watched this gong show. The Bruins playoff game is drawing ungodly ratings, and that has everyone's attention.

& the Bruins win!!

Stanley Cup Game 7 coming up in 2 days