F'n Orrin Hatch to condemn Obama on 1967 borders

[jaxx]

<..> Now, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) is announcing that he plans to introduce a resolution condemning Obama’s advocacy for pre-1967 borders. Hatch sensationally claiming that Obama is “rewarding those who threaten Israel’s very right to exist“:

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) issued a press release today stating his intention to introduce a resolution next week disapproving of the policy concerning Israel that President Barack Obama announced on Thursday. “Israel is the United States’ strongest friend and ally,” Hatch said in the statement. “By calling for a return to the pre-1967 borders, President Obama has directly undermined her.”

Instead, Hatch said, “President Obama is rewarding those who threaten Israel’s very right to exist.” “This is not only ridiculous, but dangerous,” he said.

Yet what Hatch, Netanyahu, and their allies in the U.S. Congress are not saying is that most Israelis and Palestinians actually support a settlement based around 1967 borders with mutually agreed land swaps that result in a safe, secure, free, and prosperous independent Palestinian and Israeli states. Here is a roundup of some of the recent polling on the issue:

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/05/23/1967...ar-israel/

The pubs are out for blood...Obama blood. Damn them to hell. I hope Harry Reid puts a lid on this.

[Still a Democrat]

No matter this has been policy for some time from what I understand.

The way the Israeli lobby makes everyone quake is amazing.

[jaxx]

Hatch is a moron. If Obama said give Israel all the land he'd say it was wrong.

[Ikonoklast]

First prove to me that Israel is our strongest ally, Hatch.




Like every other country on Earth, the state of Israel will put their interests first over that of any ally, no matter how much money we give them.

[The Capitol Punisher]

(05-23-2011 06:33 PM)Ikonoklast Wrote:  First prove to me that Israel is our strongest ally, Hatch.




Like every other country on Earth, the state of Israel will put their interests first over that of any ally, no matter how much money we give them.

Shit, prove to me that they're an ally, nevermind the "strongest" bit. What in the world have they ever done for us? I'm not sure I can name a thing.

[RoyGBiv]

(05-24-2011 06:46 AM)The Capitol Punisher Wrote:  Shit, prove to me that they're an ally, nevermind the "strongest" bit. What in the world have they ever done for us? I'm not sure I can name a thing.

George Bush the 1st was able to talk them into not bombing anyone during the first Gulf War so that the coalition invading Iraq didn't fall apart before things got started.

And that's how our relationships goes generally. We try to talk them out of doing something rash. Sometimes they listen, other times not so much. They're more like that annoying friend who hangs around you and mostly gets you into trouble all the time.

[Still a Democrat]

(05-24-2011 09:52 AM)RoyGBiv Wrote:  

(05-24-2011 06:46 AM)The Capitol Punisher Wrote:  Shit, prove to me that they're an ally, nevermind the "strongest" bit. What in the world have they ever done for us? I'm not sure I can name a thing.

George Bush the 1st was able to talk them into not bombing anyone during the first Gulf War so that the coalition invading Iraq didn't fall apart before things got started.

And that's how our relationships goes generally. We try to talk them out of doing something rash. Sometimes they listen, other times not so much. They're more like that annoying friend who hangs around you and mostly gets you into trouble all the time.

I, too, wonder what benefit this "friendship" brings us, other than worldwide scorn?

[RoyGBiv]

(05-24-2011 10:32 AM)Still a Democrat Wrote:  I, too, wonder what benefit this "friendship" brings us, other than worldwide scorn?

I honestly don't know. There was a time when it genuinely was the right thing to do to support Israel almost blindly. That time has passed ... long passed.

However, I posted a video elsewhere that deals primarily with apocalyptic interpretations of the religious texts, and in it the presenter comments that the real problem with this is that people take it seriously and try to make it all come about. That is a very large part of the answer to this. We support Israel blindly because we're afraid not to, and others do so because the believe by doing so they will play their part in bringing out Armageddon, which they think of as a good thing.

[KonaKane]

Apparently the dottering old fool forgot about this...

Obama Reading From GWB's Playbook on ME Peace
http://www.boomantribune.com/?op=display...33813/5425

For clarification, The 1949 Armistice boundaries are here. A tiny sliver of land bordering on the modern occupied territories
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Is...+Lines.htm

[Julie]

Fuck off. I'm beyond sick of your whiney little ass.

Julie--who really hates hand-wringing whiners like Orrin Hatch

[There Is No Spoon]

Republicans, stuck on stupid since 1994.